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Maybe read the article? > Google soon nixed the board. > Whittaker said her Google manager told her to "abandon [her] work on AI ethics" and blocked a request to transfer internally.
She asked to be moved to RMI. No hiring manager in RMI wanted her on their team, and she didn't complete the ladder transfer process. Instead demanding a forced transfer. Could be wrong here, but that's how it was presented internally by Meredith herself.
Does anyone have a suggestion of how I can donate it to whoever needs it?
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From this article: > In an email to colleagues, Whittaker said her Google manager told her to "abandon [her] work on AI ethics" and blocked a request to transfer internally. From the aforelinked Guardian article: > In the letters, Stapleton said that two months after the walkout, she was demoted and “told to go on medical leave” despite not being sick. The demotion was reversed after she hired a lawyer, she said.
The manager feedback was posted in an internal mailing list. It said no such thing. manager asked her to focus on her day to day job. Her ai ethics work was not aligned to the job she was hired for.
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Do you have proof of this?
If you are a googler. View the ethics-discuss group. And search for Meredith's post where she discloses her managers performance review.
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That’s a very good point. As I mentioned in my previous comment, I haven’t followed the situation (or other Google situations like the ones you mentioned) closely. However, I feel a just-as-reasonable explanation is that Google did those things to save face because if they truly felt those were the right things to do, there would be no retaliation and there would be an implicit agreement that the intention was morall…
> Google did those things to save face Companies don't have thoughts or emotions. A company's actions are a result of the individuals that make it up. When you see controversy like the China thing or military contracts, that's just how decisions get made in big companies. Someone wants to get money from the military. Some other people don't. They discuss it and the company makes a decision by individuals taking actio…
Furthermore, I specifically mean the leadership at Google when I simply say Google. I’m referring directly to the people deciding resolution or retaliation. Whether that’s a single person or a group of people, it doesn’t matter. By enacting a change that’s protested for, they’re legitimizing the concerns set forth by the protest (aka supporting the notion that they’re real moral issues and the opposite of rabble-rousing)
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Maybe read the article? > Google soon nixed the board. > Whittaker said her Google manager told her to "abandon [her] work on AI ethics" and blocked a request to transfer internally.
She asked to be moved to RMI. No hiring manager in RMI wanted her on their team, and she didn't complete the ladder transfer process. Instead demanding a forced transfer. Could be wrong here, but that's how it was presented internally by Meredith herself.
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Are you perhaps forgetting that this person was involved in organizing the women's march? Do I actually need to find a source for US law suggesting that retaliation against women reporting sexism is in fact illegal? This is basic compliance training for any US employment, and the EU has similar laws. Where do you live and work that you don't know this?
Organizing the women's march is like reporting sexism? I don't think so.
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This couldn't ever work. Folks that smart want to do things that are real.
Some people are brilliant but just want to be financially comfortable enough to do the things they actually want to do. Ask some CS majors why they are trying to get into the field and a huge swath with frankly say it's because they can bust ass now and get six figures at 22 years old and coast the rest of their lives. Not exactly the reality, but that's what freshman CS majors are thinking about when they hand their…
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> until the first competition shows up Their worry is that competition will be started by the people they've not hired and kept on the bench. I'd imagine a large amount of their top-level hiring is driven by taking minds off of the market, more than optimising their output.
Microsoft used this strategy successfully for a while.
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I have no idea why her reporting or not reporting these incidents is relevant. Also not sure why this the protest was 'generic'. Your comment comes off as dismissive without any substance. Please feel free to elaborate.
Because it doesn't make sense to protect anybody who mentions an incident of sexual harassment from being fired. Because then everybody would be protected from being fired, because everybody can tell a story of some incident they read in the news. Presumably the law is supposed to protect people who have been harassed and report it.