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Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by thomasfromcdnjs »

chiefalchemist wrote: post #45

> "Pew surveyed more than 3,400 U.S. Facebook users in May and June, and found that a whopping 44 percent of those ages 18 to 29 say they've deleted the app from their phone in the last year." That feels like a fairly small sample. Then from that to look at some subset (i.e., 18 to 29) feels even more suspect. Also, best I can tell, this survey was self-reported. This is worthy of at-the-bar discussion, but let's not…

This comment was hard to find... and also downvoted.

It is a super small sample, they do not even allude to what percentage of those votes were in the 18 - 29 category.

The provided pdf from the original Pewresearch article seems pretty bare -> http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/1/201...

I see this happen quite regularly on Hacker News, a bit strange for a rational/fact based community to behave.

Tweeted the researched -> https://twitter.com/ajaxdavis/status/1057046359218388992

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by beefsack »

duxup wrote: post #320
jwally wrote: post #298

Note I wrote my father in law when he had gone too far down the rabbit hole and legitimately worried about the poison it spreads around his demographic: I left Facebook when I read some press release about it being designed from the outset to make you feel bad because it keeps you engaged; hoping someone agrees with something you liked or shared and the dopamine hit it releases. I don’t like feeling manipulated and m…

I don't even know what Twitter is for except mutual high fives over the most superficial "look at me" memeish stuff. It's worse than facebook as far as the "get attention" vibe. Granted all social media is about getting attention, and I don't think there is anything wrong with it necessarily. Attention is nice, there is good reason for it, but when the message is so tailored to just that and there isn't anything else…

Twitter is a publishing platform.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by Splines »

Yhippa wrote: post #349
ajkjk wrote: post #334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely not interested. I want something that provides a service for money and won't about-face to trying to milk me for growth, ad revenue, and commodified personal data.

I am worried those days are long gone. Just like there is no turning back for gaming. F2P elements in nearly everything including paid games!

> Just like there is no turning back for gaming. F2P elements in nearly everything including paid games!

There are plenty of paid games that do not include any kind of microtransaction. I'd consider the paid-games ecosystem to be surprisingly healthy these days. But to be fair, it's all console/PC. Mobile games are likely to remain a F2P wasteland.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by abawany »

taurath wrote: post #177
DoreenMichele wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mostly don't read these articles, but some random observations: Facebook never clicked for me. I deleted it, went back, still couldn't make it work, deleted it again, started a new account and was banned. Whatevs. It seems to not click for a lot of folks inclined to hang in spaces like HN. Some folks who never really got it and perhaps felt left out that "everyone else was on it" may take glee in watching it fall a…

For the developing countries I know about (SE Asia in particular) it’s definitely still very much in the positive range - it’s adding real value. The downside has yet to hit I think.

I would call this a downside: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/myanmar-... , https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-45326928 .

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by spiritcat »

EvilMonkeyMat wrote: post #362
jwally wrote: post #298

Note I wrote my father in law when he had gone too far down the rabbit hole and legitimately worried about the poison it spreads around his demographic: I left Facebook when I read some press release about it being designed from the outset to make you feel bad because it keeps you engaged; hoping someone agrees with something you liked or shared and the dopamine hit it releases. I don’t like feeling manipulated and m…

Wow. Thanks for the way you put this out. This is exactly how I was feeling / what I was experiencing. So I went ahead, and installed my own MatterMost instance with friends. What I realized recently is that Facebook is built in a way that makes it really hard to have a real conversation. People only share links and shout their opinions with no real place for exchange.

Turns out people don't always wan't their conversations shared with [ramifications of current privacy settings unknown, assumed to be everyone]

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by Splines »

randyrand wrote: post #226
wgerard wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While anything's possible, it would be pretty shocking if Facebook figured out how to, on iOS (I can't speak for Android): * Record audio if the app's killed completely * Record audio with microphone permission disabled * etc. All of which have been claimed. The far more likely scenario is that we're much more predictable than we think. Remember the target controversy when they figured out a teenage girl was pregnant…

I was talking about the messenger texting app

I don't know why this got downvoted, while the question "does FB listen in on you" may not have a definitive answer, the answer to the question "does FB messenger look at your conversation text" is "yes": http://time.com/money/5227844/facebook-reviews-private-messa...

Does it use your private messages for advertising? It seems like "no" for now, but nothing is stopping them.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by abawany »

_sdfo wrote: post #96

There's just no way I could keep myself up to date with local events without Facebook. I live in a post-soviet country so Snapchat and Instagram are considered pretty niche here so every social event is always documented on Facebook. I also hold a monthly gamedev meetup, which would be utterly impossible without Facebook. The attendance has grown from 5 to 30 people in a few months and is now helping jump start the g…

Meetup (meetup.com) works pretty well for event organizing. I have used it to keep up with local tech groups to attend their events.

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Post by [deleted] »

duxup wrote: post #320
jwally wrote: post #298

Note I wrote my father in law when he had gone too far down the rabbit hole and legitimately worried about the poison it spreads around his demographic: I left Facebook when I read some press release about it being designed from the outset to make you feel bad because it keeps you engaged; hoping someone agrees with something you liked or shared and the dopamine hit it releases. I don’t like feeling manipulated and m…

I don't even know what Twitter is for except mutual high fives over the most superficial "look at me" memeish stuff. It's worse than facebook as far as the "get attention" vibe. Granted all social media is about getting attention, and I don't think there is anything wrong with it necessarily. Attention is nice, there is good reason for it, but when the message is so tailored to just that and there isn't anything else…

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Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by abawany »

ajkjk wrote: post #334
Yhippa wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.facebook.com/local/ I believe you still need a FB account.

Definitely not interested. I want something that provides a service for money and won't about-face to trying to milk me for growth, ad revenue, and commodified personal data.

(I promise, I am not shilling) Meetup (meetup.com) lets you make a group for I think $20/month (group participants can contribute to help the organizer) and is perfect for organizing events, sending calendar invites, providing a group forum and mailing list. I have been using it for about 10 years to keep up with local tech groups and it works great.
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