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Why have a society if you cannot trust the people in it to defend themselves?

why not defend yourself with something less likly to accidentally kill some random people?

It's a valid question. If we had something like phasers instead of firearms, I'd be more than happy to use those exclusively. The problem is we don't really have a good alternative. Tasers that shoot tend to be one shot solutions, and even then they don't always bring down targets, or they might prove as lethal. Rubber bullets you can fire multiple of, but they could cause serious damage too, especially if shot in succession, and there is no guarantee of taking the target down. There just isn't a solid alternative right now.

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This is very dismaying to see I have used Youtube in the past for seeing how to install gun accessories, put guns together, how to fix malfunctions, etc. Watching those videos has made me a more knowledgeable, and hence more responsible gun owner. This is an especially large blow for people who are part of niche communities, like reloading ammo for 100+ year old rifles. A lot of historical content will be lost. The n…

Reddit and Youtube are becoming more and more draconian for one reason. They REALLY need people to stay on their advertisement platform. For instance Reddit has always had issues with its content clashing with advertisers. Youtube I think has gone into rougher times with its relation to advertisers (I remember proctor and gamble pulled their ads). When your advertisers complain about your platform having content they…

I have my doubts. It's not rocket science to introduce a mechanism which lets the advertisers choose what kind of videos are acceptable for their ads to appear in.

Don't like guns or beer? Tell Youtube not to displays the add on guns/beer related videos. Problem solved. Same goes for Reddit. Would advertisers care that there is gun related subreddit their ad never appear on?

I feel the decision is ideological and will hopefully hurt them in the long term.

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I read the craft beer forums got hit hard, since they cant sell alcohol. Also cigars trading and buy clubs are now banned. The finally got all the dark net, and idtheft, shoplifting subs. Sexsells is still up, but thats a political discussion sub, not for advertising. I know my local WA_Gun sub is purging all its trade/sell posts, since they allowed it, since all transactions are done at a dealer under law here. Gun…

You complaining about all this is rich. You are the moderator of r/Ask_the_Donald, and banned me from there for having the audacity to point out an inaccuracy in one of your comments.

So much for free speech, huh?

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Yes, I am saying that gun enthusiasts, the millions of normal Americans and people around the world who like guns, or even craft beer, or historical re-enactment, also like to tell jokes. They do not go to reddit to only talk about guns, but to other subreddits. It's quite easy to understand. I am not saying they are the only people keeping the site alive, that would be silly. I'm saying that people that like to tell…

Let me clear: im completely against these bannings specifically. It looks like a very political move and it came out of nowhere without any warning to the subreddit mods, volunteers who make reddit what it is. Having said that, I still don't buy the argument that this will have some sort of larger negative impact on the reddit community. Reddit is way too large for some niche subreddits to actually matter in the big…

What happened with digg and MySpace? They were too big to fail too but what happened was that more attractive places occurred and people went to them.

I'm proposing that an exodus of non toxic people from place A to place B makes place B less toxic. Now I don't think we will see the alternatives improve overnight but if things carry on along this road then we will see it.

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General population don't practice ramming car into crowd. Those are not hobbies. So, when mentally ill people want to cause harm they don't use those methods. It does not normally comes to mind. But, shooting is common. It's a hobby. A killing machine is normalized and it becomes a culture. So, those mentally ill men feels completely normal to shoot people when they go crazy. Consider this: ramming car into objects b…

> That's why countries where gun are banned for general population, does not have mass murder by "common people" like USA Sorry, but this is completely false. I am not going to link to it for reasons of taste, but you can google "encyclopedia dramatica high score" for a very thorough run down on mass shootings. They occur globally and are by no means a phenomenon isolated to the US.

They occur, but far less frequently.

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Every time I see this argument come up people always try to frame it like it will be ‘nutters’ shooting ‘some’ people. You are very wrong, and that is the attitude that will get a lot of innocent people killed. This country is filled with rational, professional, well organized people who will kill before being disarmed.

You don't think trying to murder policemen because your country enacted gun controls to protect schoolchildren would be "nutters trying to shoot people"? "Oh but I need this 1000 round per minute gun for pest control in my apartment! I'll murder people to protect my right to have it."??

I'm not sure where you got 1000 rounds per minute from, even a fully automatic rifle generally cannot fire that quickly (it would probably need to be belt-fed or you would be changing magazines more than thirty times per minute).

A semi-automatic rifle like the AR-15 is unlikely to surpass 100 rounds per minute.

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> It also seems to me that for those who tend toward original intent interpretations (majority of current Supreme Court) would agree that the founders only saw it fit that people be able to own guns with similar firepower and lethality as muskets. You'd be wrong there. The Supreme Court agrees that the founders saw fit that people are armed with weapons similar to those used by the military, with certain restrictions…

And those weapons at the time were....muskets, bayonets. They had no vision of the M-16, AK-47, etc. The statement of the 2nd Amendment begins with, "A well regulated militia..." So let's well regulate it. According to Wikipedia: In United States v. Cruikshank (1876), the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that, "The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; neither is it in any manner dependent up…

Many, many more recent cases have conflicted with Cruikshank and chipped away at its jurisprudence. The court was not well run or fair in those days.

Miller is especially bad case law too, he was dead by the time it was heard and essentially no one even argued that side of the case - it was a total sham.

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I've deleted both my YouTube and reddit accounts. I've been trying to de-Google my life, this will probably accelerate that. Just need a proper mobile Linux device and I can finally dump Android.

Why not an iPhone? At least Apple seems to care about privacy, and they aren't an ad-tech company like Google or FB.

Apple wants 30% of all the money spent on iPhone apps. This alone is the reason enough to never support them. If they win and it becomes the only option it will be a disaster for developers. Can you imagine a world where there is a 30% tax on all the sales generated in our profession going to a private corporation?

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> It's not censorship, it's moderating your platform. On the contrary, it's literally censorship. It's moderation through censorship. > I can't really see how you can complain if they decide that they don't want to deal with your content anymore. I don't find this line of thinking convincing. It's certainly appropriate to criticize moderation policies of platforms. If YouTube decided to censor videos on how to use co…

The problem is, being a corporate entity supported by other corporate entities' advertisements, there is not much you can do about it. The First Amendment does not apply here: with a few exceptions, you can't force a corporation (or any private entity) to promote something contrary to its interests. This in itself is okay. I certainly can find places on the web that would censor / moderate videos on how to use condom…

The first amendment does apply - just, it applies the other way around. The primary function of media sites is to broadcast their users' messages, and in doing so they're exercising their own freedom of speech. To force them to broadcast certain content would be to compel certain speech from them, which would violate their freedom of speech.

(do note that I'm not a lawyer, so this might not be 100% accurate)

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