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Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by arjie »

mjrpes wrote: post #262
mkozlows wrote: post #200

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So the thing is, the Nexus 5 was a near-perfect phone (especially considering it was released two years ago), and it's totally reasonable to think it's still doing the job very well -- it is. But that's a fact about the N5, not the N5X/6P. I mean, what would you want from a new phone that would show up on a spec sheet? Faster? Check, both of these are. The 808/810 aren't gigantic generational leaps over the 800, but…

Occasionally, my Nexus 5 is dead in the morning because the phone was not perfectly placed on the wireless charger. Until Google expands the charging area on the phone to eliminate this problem, I don't mind going back to wired charging.

I have the Tylt http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Charger-Galaxy-Nexus-Phones/d... but it is far from the only device in that form factor. Strongly recommend.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by jgord »

zuppy wrote: post #356
chrsstrm wrote: post #336

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My worry is that this is a gateway drug to "Fingerprint protect all the things!" My bank emailed me the other day with an announcement that I could access my account through their app via my fingerprint. WTF? My text messages are one thing by now my money is protected by just my fingerprint? I took my bank to task because they allowed my username to be twice as long as the allowed characters in my password. Someone a…

Fair point, it should be used for convenience, not for real security.

.. non-hackers will equate it with security.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by thom_nic »

mmastrac wrote: post #50
thom_nic wrote: post #45

Minor gripe: Who thought it was a good idea to make a charger with a permanent cable attached? https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_charger Also, does anyone have full specs? I don't see it anywhere.

I agree that it's not a great idea, but I assume it has something to do with the abnormally high current that it can provide.

Nah, as another commenter mentioned, the dual version has normal, removable cables. So no idea why the single variant couldn't: https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_dual_port_charger

Funny how (other than current limit) the original iPhone charger cube is still like the gold standard for chargers.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by dexterdog »

eropple wrote: post #357
mkozlows wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So the thing is, the Nexus 5 was a near-perfect phone (especially considering it was released two years ago), and it's totally reasonable to think it's still doing the job very well -- it is. But that's a fact about the N5, not the N5X/6P. I mean, what would you want from a new phone that would show up on a spec sheet? Faster? Check, both of these are. The 808/810 aren't gigantic generational leaps over the 800, but…

> Better screen? They're both bigger; > So that's one downgrade Two, and one critical. The Nexus 5 was absolutely the biggest phone I would consider, and even that was really too big. Making one phone a dinner plate and one phone a centimeter-larger dinner plate is atrocious. Apparently only Sony wants my money (and honestly the Z Compact series is still too big).

I used to be the same guy complaining about all of the phones being too small. I like the big phones of today, but I understand the complaints some people have.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by will_hughes »

zuppy wrote: post #327
chrsstrm wrote: post #319

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>Plus the fingerprint thing is probably a bigger deal than you think Am I the only person on the planet who doesn't want a fingerprint reader on my phone? I don't want to secure anything of importance with my fingerprint - fingerprints are usernames, not passwords. This just feels like the equivalent of writing your password on a Post-It and sticking it to your monitor.

Nobody's going to bother to recreate your fingerprint, when it's much easier to beat you with a wrench ( https://xkcd.com/538/ ) until they get access to your phone. It's a huge convenience for you though, to unlock it without doing anything extra, as you're pressing that button anyway to turn the screen on. Much easier than typing passwords.

(I'm not a lawyer, I've just read a bunch of blogposts/discussions on the issue)

There's a legal difference in some places between having your phone secured by a fingerprint and a password. If your phone is secured by a password, then in some places you cannot be obliged to provide the password, but a fingerprint you can.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by djabatt »

Looks good, but I am over Android. Moreover I feel like Google is never in it to win with their phone hardware. I am hippyish with my Apple iPhone but look forward to killer open option.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by simoncion »

djabatt wrote: post #406

Looks good, but I am over Android. Moreover I feel like Google is never in it to win with their phone hardware. I am hippyish with my Apple iPhone but look forward to killer open option.

> Moreover I feel like Google is never in it to win with their phone hardware.

1) [Pedantry warning:] Google doesn't make phone hardware. ;)

2) The OLED Nexus S was a really nice phone back in the day. It's still pretty nice today.

So, -in short- I don't agree with your heavy-on-managerial-platitudes sentiment.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by mjrpes »

arjie wrote: post #401
mjrpes wrote: post #262

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Occasionally, my Nexus 5 is dead in the morning because the phone was not perfectly placed on the wireless charger. Until Google expands the charging area on the phone to eliminate this problem, I don't mind going back to wired charging.

I have the Tylt http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Charger-Galaxy-Nexus-Phones/d... but it is far from the only device in that form factor. Strongly recommend.

OK that looks much better designed. Definitely would recommend that over a flat charger, based on my experience.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by will_hughes »

inversionOf wrote: post #156
jewbacca wrote: post #111

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1. The Nexus line is supposed to be something like Google's Android reference device, and implements the minimum common set of features -- up-to-date computing hardware and screen, reasonable-resolution cameras, standard set of sensors (GPS, acceleration, etc.). An SD card slot doesn't really add any technical possibilities. 2. Google probably wants to push the idea that any storage beyond local apps should be to the…

I pay $30 for 6GB of LTE data per month (Rogers, via a promotional plan that they've offered countless times). And I generally use about 200MB in an average month as I'm virtually always around WiFi of some sort. Which is exactly what Google envisions, with most of their cloud solutions defaulting to only operating over WiFi. SD storage has always been a mess on Android because it was originally added just as an easy…

I'm not in Canada, but I do use Google Play Music on my commute (2-3hrs per day) with it's streaming curated playlists. That eats through a ton of bandwidth. That chewed through about 3GB last month before I had to stop listening while out and about.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by zmmmmm »

zuppy wrote: post #369
posnet wrote: post #346

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Many countries now take fingerprint scans when you cross the border. Even if they themselves never use it, its easily conceivable that they could be hacked or leaked. Then what? You can't revoke your fingerprint.

Who will bother to recreate the fingerprint, most of us aren't that important? (I'm not) :) Don't get me wrong, I do understand the main problem is that you can't change this "token" and it's something that the people have easy access to. It shouldn't be used to keep data that has a higher value than the effort required.

The real risk is that if it reaches a certain level of ubiquity (which it appears it is), authorities will invest in a) laws and b) technology to break it with almost trivial ease. The US already has my fingerprints on file from crossing the border. Presumably it means that if they wish they could trivially unlock my phone and search its contents. I fully expect that if fingerprint access does become the universal security mechanism used on computing devices we'll soon enough have fully automated solutions where law enforcement can either download your fingerprint from their existing database or scan it from any available surface in real time and apply an image to the sensor to fool it into unlocking. Obviously this will take a while to happen, so for now people are lulled into a rather false sense of security that their fingerprints are a "pretty good" way to secure their phone when they are only "pretty good" because technology will take a few years to automate the breaking of them, at which point they will become "very bad".
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