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Even aside from sexism (and the casually racist Euro-centric term 'wog') that's a very stupid word and they should feel ashamed for inventing it. It's as bad as 'murse'.
Never heard of either. How offensive are they compared to towelhead or nigger?
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In my mind, strangely, it came out as "woeful programmers" - "women" didn't even occur to me. Obviously this name is every bit as bad as the execrable "brogrammers".
Isn't brogrammer derogatory?
Thats the most sexist word ever... kidogrammers, asianogrammers and bullshit ... get a life and stop seeing a gender, a race or anything else to your colleague and just expect from him/her being polite and positive. When will we get rid of this nonsense?
When will we get rid of this nonsense? As soon as people stop using it as an excuse to abuse, berate, degrade and discriminate against people. These words, and the intent behind them, are not the problem - they are a reaction to the problem. Rather than get annoyed with people who invent words like 'wogrammers', why not direct your anger toward the employers who refuse to hire women, or pay them less, or ignore sexua…
Do you have any data, which controls for the appropriate variables, to support that?
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As much as I dislike positive discrimination, I view it as a necessary evil. In the specific case of women in CS/CE, I think it's fair to say that the lack of women is rather troubling, and has roots in prejudice. So yeah, who knows. Maybe recognizing the success of women in this field might help restore some balance and one day make this positive discrimination unecessary. Then we won't need any special terms and al…
Does the same discrimination exist in nursing to restore the balance? Does it exist in child care services? In education? Edit: for the clown who accused me of "fallacy of relative privation" - can you explain how my comparison is "completely unrelated to the subject at hand" ? One industry is constantly under scrutiny for its gender imbalance, everyone is summoned to take action and we justify discrimination for the…
That said some of the socialists parties here in Denmark made ending that kind of discrimination part of their election reform.
The name is silly, yes, but I do wonder if this kind of thing even accomplishes its stated goals. I've known a few programmers-who-are-women who find the laser-focus on Women Can Program Too to be annoying ("yes, I'm a woman, get over it"), insulting ("no shit, are you implying I couldn't?") or outright counterproductive ("it makes it sound like tech is some sexist hellhole that they have to beg women to even conside…
This is getting more and more hilarous FFS. Will we have a special group for afroamerican women programmers ? Special group for mentally ill programmers ? Or what about vegan transgender programmers ? This kind of positive discrimination is really annoying and unfair. Using the right tool and right people should be free of all prejudices FFS
Yes it should be but it almost never is. We tend to prefer people who are like us and share cultural similarities to us. This means that people who may have contributions to make don't get the opportunity. So these groups are important. They allow for people to advocate for themselves and to be heard as something more than a lone voice in the wilderness.
This is getting more and more hilarous FFS. Will we have a special group for afroamerican women programmers ? Special group for mentally ill programmers ? Or what about vegan transgender programmers ? This kind of positive discrimination is really annoying and unfair. Using the right tool and right people should be free of all prejudices FFS
Yes it should be but it almost never is. We tend to prefer people who are like us and share cultural similarities to us. This means that people who may have contributions to make don't get the opportunity. So these groups are important. They allow for people to advocate for themselves and to be heard as something more than a lone voice in the wilderness.
Interesting, any data to support that?
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When will we get rid of this nonsense? As soon as people stop using it as an excuse to abuse, berate, degrade and discriminate against people. These words, and the intent behind them, are not the problem - they are a reaction to the problem. Rather than get annoyed with people who invent words like 'wogrammers', why not direct your anger toward the employers who refuse to hire women, or pay them less, or ignore sexua…
>why not direct your anger toward the employers who refuse to hire women, or pay them less, or ignore sexual harassment Do you have any data, which controls for the appropriate variables, to support that?
Thats the most sexist word ever... kidogrammers, asianogrammers and bullshit ... get a life and stop seeing a gender, a race or anything else to your colleague and just expect from him/her being polite and positive. When will we get rid of this nonsense?
> Thats the most sexist word ever
Are you even aware that this project was started and is being done by women in the tech field and is aimed to communicate at women? You're probably a man. You're not being asked to change, or do anything. All they're doing is showing learning women that other women are having fun and success in the tech industry and so could they. If having a silly name helps in that then what you think about the name does not matter.
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Does the same discrimination exist in nursing to restore the balance? Does it exist in child care services? In education? Edit: for the clown who accused me of "fallacy of relative privation" - can you explain how my comparison is "completely unrelated to the subject at hand" ? One industry is constantly under scrutiny for its gender imbalance, everyone is summoned to take action and we justify discrimination for the…
Your logical fallacy is: The Fallacy of relative privation, aka "whataboutery" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_relative_privation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism > Edit: for the clown who accused me of "fallacy of relative privation edit : sorry, no. It's easy to work out, but as a matter of policy I don't enter into serious debates with people who casually throw around words like "clown". I find…