It's side-splittingly hilarious how unironically hypocritical company's approaches to being more "friendly" to women. "What? We don't have enough of these minorities in X field? Better highlight those that we DO have by segmenting them according to that minority!"
Meet the wogrammers – women in engineering
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Re: Meet the wogrammers – women in engineering
#22Thats the most sexist word ever... kidogrammers, asianogrammers and bullshit ... get a life and stop seeing a gender, a race or anything else to your colleague and just expect from him/her being polite and positive. When will we get rid of this nonsense?
Even aside from sexism (and the casually racist Euro-centric term 'wog') that's a very stupid word and they should feel ashamed for inventing it. It's as bad as 'murse'.
'wog' is not 'casually racist'. If you are British and you call someone a 'wog' it is very, very offensive.
Re: Meet the wogrammers – women in engineering
#23Probably should have come up with a better name. The natural English syllabification of this is 'wog.ram.mers', rather than 'wo.gram.mers'. That's a barrel of worms you don't want to open!... Which is a shame, because such an initiative isn't one that should be pulled down because of something so superficial. EDIT: The natural British English syllabification, where 'wog' is a derogatory racial slur.
In my mind, strangely, it came out as "woeful programmers" - "women" didn't even occur to me. Obviously this name is every bit as bad as the execrable "brogrammers".
Isn't brogrammer derogatory?
Re: Meet the wogrammers – women in engineering
#24Thats the most sexist word ever... kidogrammers, asianogrammers and bullshit ... get a life and stop seeing a gender, a race or anything else to your colleague and just expect from him/her being polite and positive. When will we get rid of this nonsense?
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
As much as I dislike positive discrimination, I view it as a necessary evil. In the specific case of women in CS/CE, I think it's fair to say that the lack of women is rather troubling, and has roots in prejudice. So yeah, who knows. Maybe recognizing the success of women in this field might help restore some balance and one day make this positive discrimination unecessary. Then we won't need any special terms and al…
Does the same discrimination exist in nursing to restore the balance? Does it exist in child care services? In education? Edit: for the clown who accused me of "fallacy of relative privation" - can you explain how my comparison is "completely unrelated to the subject at hand" ? One industry is constantly under scrutiny for its gender imbalance, everyone is summoned to take action and we justify discrimination for the…
Your logical fallacy is: The Fallacy of relative privation, aka "whataboutery"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_relative_privation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
> Edit: for the clown who accused me of "fallacy of relative privation
edit: sorry, no. It's easy to work out, but as a matter of policy I don't enter into serious debates with people who casually throw around words like "clown". I find that it's not usually worth the attempt.
Re: Meet the wogrammers – women in engineering
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
As much as I dislike positive discrimination, I view it as a necessary evil. In the specific case of women in CS/CE, I think it's fair to say that the lack of women is rather troubling, and has roots in prejudice. So yeah, who knows. Maybe recognizing the success of women in this field might help restore some balance and one day make this positive discrimination unecessary. Then we won't need any special terms and al…
Does the same discrimination exist in nursing to restore the balance? Does it exist in child care services? In education? Edit: for the clown who accused me of "fallacy of relative privation" - can you explain how my comparison is "completely unrelated to the subject at hand" ? One industry is constantly under scrutiny for its gender imbalance, everyone is summoned to take action and we justify discrimination for the…
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
As much as I dislike positive discrimination, I view it as a necessary evil. In the specific case of women in CS/CE, I think it's fair to say that the lack of women is rather troubling, and has roots in prejudice. So yeah, who knows. Maybe recognizing the success of women in this field might help restore some balance and one day make this positive discrimination unecessary. Then we won't need any special terms and al…
Does the same discrimination exist in nursing to restore the balance? Does it exist in child care services? In education? Edit: for the clown who accused me of "fallacy of relative privation" - can you explain how my comparison is "completely unrelated to the subject at hand" ? One industry is constantly under scrutiny for its gender imbalance, everyone is summoned to take action and we justify discrimination for the…
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
As much as I dislike positive discrimination, I view it as a necessary evil. In the specific case of women in CS/CE, I think it's fair to say that the lack of women is rather troubling, and has roots in prejudice. So yeah, who knows. Maybe recognizing the success of women in this field might help restore some balance and one day make this positive discrimination unecessary. Then we won't need any special terms and al…
Does the same discrimination exist in nursing to restore the balance? Does it exist in child care services? In education? Edit: for the clown who accused me of "fallacy of relative privation" - can you explain how my comparison is "completely unrelated to the subject at hand" ? One industry is constantly under scrutiny for its gender imbalance, everyone is summoned to take action and we justify discrimination for the…
Re: Meet the wogrammers – women in engineering
#29If cruel and unusual punishment is unconstitutional, why do we inflict it on the english language?
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#30This is getting more and more hilarous FFS. Will we have a special group for afroamerican women programmers ? Special group for mentally ill programmers ? Or what about vegan transgender programmers ? This kind of positive discrimination is really annoying and unfair. Using the right tool and right people should be free of all prejudices FFS
As much as I dislike positive discrimination, I view it as a necessary evil. In the specific case of women in CS/CE, I think it's fair to say that the lack of women is rather troubling, and has roots in prejudice. So yeah, who knows. Maybe recognizing the success of women in this field might help restore some balance and one day make this positive discrimination unecessary. Then we won't need any special terms and al…
It may be necessary, but by being evil should we really do it?