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Apple finally makes it easy to disable iMessage

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Re: Apple finally makes it easy to disable iMessage

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Post by hussong »

yebyen wrote: post #32
k-mcgrady wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure the setting wasn't backed up? I've never had this issue and done many upgrades and fresh installs.

I had to show this setting to my fiancée who just got her first iPhone, a 5c, as a free upgrade when her feature phone kicked it, and since she isn't paying for a data plan... First we figured out how to disable cellular data, since the phone with the minimum data plan gets only 100MB of usage per month, it's definitely too much to ask that one should police their applications and "just not use data" -- I don't have…

I agree that iOS and apps could do more to help users stay within the limits of their data plan. Sometimes it seems like they assume data is free.

I once had Spotify eat my entire data for the month in a few hours because wifi was spotty and it just went on to stream (in max quality) over 3G.

Another issue, especially in Europe, is international roaming. When you're near a border, your device may be roaming in the neighboring countries network because their signal is stronger, so you really have to catch the "welcome to foo network" sms and turn off data roaming (or pay for an "EU Day Pack").

Re: Apple finally makes it easy to disable iMessage

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Post by pessimizer »

dijit wrote: post #12
riaface wrote: post #10

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Did they say that with a straight face? I can't believe that would be serious advice! "You literally need to contact everyone in your address book and make sure they have the right settings."

No, you remove your number from the imessage "My Addresses" list and everyone else will see nothing different except the send button is green now. the problem that really exists with iMessage is that it's easy to enroll but people forget to unenroll when they move their number away from iPhone.

You're wrong, and the comment you replied to is right. According to Apple, it can take up to 45 days to receive text messages from Apple products after you turn iMessage off.

http://support.apple.com/en-us/TS2755

This was the experience of the person who initiated the class action suit:

"21. Apple personnel informed Plaintiff that even though she had turned iMessage off in her old iPhone she may still not be receiving all her text messages because some texters using Apple devices may not be using the latest Apple iOS version. Rather than Apple coming up with a solution to a problem created by Apple, Apple's representative instead suggested to Plaintiff that Plaintiff get her text message senders to update their Apple iOS to the latest version, or have them delete and then re-add Plaintiff as their contact, or have Plaintiff and these unsuccessful Apple texters start a new text conversation with Plaintiff."

http://www.slideshare.net/harrisonrweber/apple-imessage-laws...

Re: Apple finally makes it easy to disable iMessage

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Post by yebyen »

chrisbolt wrote: post #40
yebyen wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had to show this setting to my fiancée who just got her first iPhone, a 5c, as a free upgrade when her feature phone kicked it, and since she isn't paying for a data plan... First we figured out how to disable cellular data, since the phone with the minimum data plan gets only 100MB of usage per month, it's definitely too much to ask that one should police their applications and "just not use data" -- I don't have…

Your issue isn't send as sms, it's that she shouldn't be using iMessage in the first place.

This makes sense, I see now that you can disable it. But was this even an option before Apple published the "selfsolve" page referenced here in today's news?

I haven't seen any articles that suggest you should disable iMessage unless you are dropping your iPhone completely. It was totally not obvious to me that you can even do this, and I am professional. ^_^ (I don't have my own iPhone, so I've never had to wrangle with these issues on my own.)

Re: Apple finally makes it easy to disable iMessage

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Post by mahouse »

TheCoelacanth wrote: post #39
mahouse wrote: post #35

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I had never heard about them. Are they standard'

Not part of standard SMS, but it is a standard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_Messaging_Service

I actually meant group threads.

Re: Apple finally makes it easy to disable iMessage

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Post by acmecorps »

bsaul wrote: post #34

Is it just an optical illusion, or does Apple really has a problem with anything related to network programming ? Every single time i hear about any technology they're developing that is vaguely related to network, i have the feeling something is going to break up. I say "network" because i think it goes from - web sites : their developper and itunes connect website is a shame, app store discovery simply doesn't work…

On the other hand, their bonjour service is top notch (anecdotally, but still).

Re: Apple finally makes it easy to disable iMessage

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Post by jacquesm »

Terretta wrote: post #13
leonk wrote: post #9

There's a much bigger issue, the default iPhone settings has "Send as SMS" off, this means that if a failed iMessage attempt occurs, it will just give up (rather than sending by SMS). I've tried disabling iMessage on my iphone several times. I then have nothing connected to my iMessage account, but I still miss out on loads of messages from people who have the "Send by SMS" option disabled. Their devices are not told…

> There's a much bigger issue, the default iPhone settings has "Send as SMS" off, this means that if a failed iMessage attempt occurs, it will just give up (rather than sending by SMS). So by default, it sends a secure end-to-end message, and you'd prefer it to fail back and send an insecure SMS logged by your telco? (Verizon, for example, makes your SMS history available in a web portal.) I think the bigger issue wo…

I'd rather have my telco read over my shoulder than Apple.

Telcos being in the business of handling my conversations anyway and Apple being a hardware vendor from a different continent.

Re: Apple finally makes it easy to disable iMessage

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Post by rwong48 »

mahouse wrote: post #44
TheCoelacanth wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not part of standard SMS, but it is a standard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_Messaging_Service

I actually meant group threads.

Group threads have been implemented as MMS on all major smartphone operating systems. Unfortunately, Android didn't get it until Android 4.2 or something.

The key is that the recipient list is sent with the message, so the other clients know who else is participating in the group, and can also thread and send outgoing messages accordingly.

Re: Apple finally makes it easy to disable iMessage

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Post by JohnTHaller »

dignick wrote: post #36
atonse wrote: post #8

I have a different problem - I did a T-Mobile tryout and had an iPhone with a different number for a week. And then I returned it. I can't remove that number. I hope the new person that got it doesn't get my messages. Hopefully you can only associate one number with iMessage.

I had this issue, reset your network settings and turn off and on iMessage. Maybe try without resetting first.

The phone has already been returned. So, forget about getting texts from your iPhone friends.
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