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Yes that is 519A which is not the same as the one I found called just 519. 519A was published 1981, 519 seemingly in 1979.
There are a few papers circa 1980 that cite an AI Lab memo with this title and give a date of 1979 [1], so there must indeed have been a version circulated earlier than the 1981 "A" version. Have you tried contacting the CSAIL archivist to see if they'd be interested in putting up a non-A version of 519? [1] http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=802784 , http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=990280
EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)
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Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)
#42Am I reading this right? You used to... not be able to see your code verbatim as you were editing it? My god, that sounds horrible.
Have you ever used a 300bps modem to connect to the internet? If you did then you would see how avoiding rendering could make you much much more productive.
Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)
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I had Emacs running "okay-ish" on my 300 baud modem. I wrote a terminal emulator that implemented character and line insert and delete, and region scroll, which made Emacs screen refresh (borderline) tolerable. Let's just say that it WAS tolerable considering that my alternative was to use punchcards. (Imagine long lines for punchcard machines in the basement of the CS building, which smelled of too many students and…
If memory serves, one of Emacs innovations was to decouple the display system from the editing system. The display would run asynchronously. If the display lagged due to a slow connection it would always be trying to show the most current state rather than strictly rendering the results of each edit operation, one by one. It also tried to minimize the terminal codes need to bring the display up to date. I can't say I…
Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)
#44Written before the PC police insisted upon alternating He/She pronouns, awkward constructions such as "He or she", or flatly incorrect usage, i.e. "their" as a singular.
Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)
#45What we decide is not worth while to add, the user can provide for himself. He can just as easily provide his own alternative to a feature if he does not like the way it works in the standard system. Written before the PC police insisted upon alternating He/She pronouns, awkward constructions such as "He or she", or flatly incorrect usage, i.e. "their" as a singular.
Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)
#46Am I reading this right? You used to... not be able to see your code verbatim as you were editing it? My god, that sounds horrible.
Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)
#47I actually found an earlier version of this paper in my teachers room (published 1979). It's AI Memo 519 (the linked paper is 591A) and I can't find a reference to this anywhere. I even emailed Stallman and he couldn't remember when it was first published (he thought that it was published in 1981 first to). I uploaded it to archive.org: https://archive.org/details/MITAIMemo519 My teacher suspects he got it from a guy…
Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)
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There are a few papers circa 1980 that cite an AI Lab memo with this title and give a date of 1979 [1], so there must indeed have been a version circulated earlier than the 1981 "A" version. Have you tried contacting the CSAIL archivist to see if they'd be interested in putting up a non-A version of 519? [1] http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=802784 , http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=990280
Yes I emailed them when I found it but got no response. I will email them again and see if they are interested.
Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)
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Yes I emailed them when I found it but got no response. I will email them again and see if they are interested.
Is this it? https://ia601004.us.archive.org/32/items/MITAIMemo519/MIT-AI...
Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)
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Is this it? https://ia601004.us.archive.org/32/items/MITAIMemo519/MIT-AI...
Yes that is the document I uploaded to IA, linked to it in my first comment.