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EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)

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Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)

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This is nice to see a relatively brief introduction to the essential features.

Steve Yegge wrote: "Go look over Paul Nordstrom's shoulder while he works sometime, if you don't believe me. It's a real eye-opener for someone who's used Visual Blub .NET-like IDEs their whole career."

Does anyone know of any public video of Mr. Nordstrom using emacs, or can someone who knows him request one? [edit: properly attribute the quote]

Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)

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I actually found an earlier version of this paper in my teachers room (published 1979). It's AI Memo 519 (the linked paper is 591A) and I can't find a reference to this anywhere. I even emailed Stallman and he couldn't remember when it was first published (he thought that it was published in 1981 first to).

I uploaded it to archive.org: https://archive.org/details/MITAIMemo519 My teacher suspects he got it from a guy that used to work at MIT at the time (can't remember the name). I have not been able to find it anywhere else, even the AI memo archive doesn't have it (http://publications.csail.mit.edu/ai/browse/0500browse.shtml). Anyone able to shed some light?

Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)

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post #3

I actually found an earlier version of this paper in my teachers room (published 1979). It's AI Memo 519 (the linked paper is 591A) and I can't find a reference to this anywhere. I even emailed Stallman and he couldn't remember when it was first published (he thought that it was published in 1981 first to). I uploaded it to archive.org: https://archive.org/details/MITAIMemo519 My teacher suspects he got it from a guy…

ftp://publications.ai.mit.edu/ai-publications/pdf/AIM-519A.pdf

Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)

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I want to point out this quote:

"The traditional attitude towards Lisp holds that it is useful only for esoteric amusements and Artificial Intelligence. The appearance of Multics EMACS as a Honeywell product is the death knell of this view."

I agree!

Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)

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Am I reading this right? You used to... not be able to see your code verbatim as you were editing it? My god, that sounds horrible.

Yes. You can still write programs in this mode with the ed Unix utility.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor

Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)

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This is nice to see a relatively brief introduction to the essential features. Steve Yegge wrote: "Go look over Paul Nordstrom's shoulder while he works sometime, if you don't believe me. It's a real eye-opener for someone who's used Visual Blub .NET-like IDEs their whole career." Does anyone know of any public video of Mr. Nordstrom using emacs, or can someone who knows him request one? [edit: properly attribute the…

This identical question on SO has some links, but not the one you are looking for, it seems: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/140336/where-can-i-find-a...
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