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Facebook does not have the power to imprison you or mark you as a suspected terrorist and put you on a no-fly list and freeze your bank accounts.
The NSA can (and does) use Facebook to mark you as a suspected terrorist and put you on a no-fly list. The NSA doesn't have the power to imprison you or seize your bank accounts without the help of a judge.
> Economic losses to US businesses due to lost sales and declining customer trust. Whenever I have a discussion with friends on this topic, this is what I focus on. For many people, safety has a higher political priority than privacy. However, when you start saying that mass surveillance kills jobs, it gets much more attention because economic issues are usually on par or above safety concerns. This is why I don't un…
> For many people, safety has a higher political priority than privacy. However, when you start saying that mass surveillance kills jobs, it gets much more attention because economic issues are usually on par or above safety concerns. Then there are people like my wife, who thinks disclosure hurt the US politically and economically, thus rationalizing that it is Snowden's fault for revealing all these surveillance pr…
Once people directly realize what it means to have no privacy they generally get the concept. It's just in the abstract that people have a hard time understanding it. Bring it hometo her in a very personal way, because that's what it's about.
> Economic losses to US businesses due to lost sales and declining customer trust. Whenever I have a discussion with friends on this topic, this is what I focus on. For many people, safety has a higher political priority than privacy. However, when you start saying that mass surveillance kills jobs, it gets much more attention because economic issues are usually on par or above safety concerns. This is why I don't un…
> For many people, safety has a higher political priority than privacy. However, when you start saying that mass surveillance kills jobs, it gets much more attention because economic issues are usually on par or above safety concerns. Then there are people like my wife, who thinks disclosure hurt the US politically and economically, thus rationalizing that it is Snowden's fault for revealing all these surveillance pr…
> Economic losses to US businesses due to lost sales and declining customer trust. Whenever I have a discussion with friends on this topic, this is what I focus on. For many people, safety has a higher political priority than privacy. However, when you start saying that mass surveillance kills jobs, it gets much more attention because economic issues are usually on par or above safety concerns. This is why I don't un…
> For many people, safety has a higher political priority than privacy. However, when you start saying that mass surveillance kills jobs, it gets much more attention because economic issues are usually on par or above safety concerns. Then there are people like my wife, who thinks disclosure hurt the US politically and economically, thus rationalizing that it is Snowden's fault for revealing all these surveillance pr…
Do you mean politically-UN-aware? Take your pick:
- Why Privacy Matters Even if You Have 'Nothing to Hide': http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127...
- 3 Reasons the ‘Nothing to Hide’ Crowd Should Be Worried About Government Surveillance: http://reason.com/archives/2013/06/12/three-reasons-the-noth...
- Privacy And Why It Really Matters (skip down to "The cost of losing privacy": https://markopolojarvi.com/privacy.html
- Nothing to hide argument (Wikipedia): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument
- "I’ve Got Nothing to Hide" and Other Misunderstandings of Privacy (PDF): http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565
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> "safety > privacy"
Too many wrongly characterize the debate as "security versus privacy." The real choice is liberty versus control. Tyranny, whether it arises under threat of foreign physical attack or under constant domestic authoritative scrutiny, is still tyranny. Liberty requires security without intrusion, security plus privacy. Widespread police surveillance is the very definition of a police state. And that's why we should champion privacy even when we have nothing to hide.
Privacy protects us from abuses by those in power, even if we're doing nothing wrong at the time of surveillance.
- above two quotes of Bruce Schneier: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/12/my_reaction_t...
- Sir Tim Berners-Lee Blasts “Insidious, Chilling Effects” Of Online Surveillance, Says We Should Be Protecting Whistleblowers Like Snowden: http://techcrunch.com/2013/11/22/sir-tim-berners-lee-blasts-...
- chilling effects already in evidence: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2412564
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> For many people, safety has a higher political priority than privacy. However, when you start saying that mass surveillance kills jobs, it gets much more attention because economic issues are usually on par or above safety concerns. Then there are people like my wife, who thinks disclosure hurt the US politically and economically, thus rationalizing that it is Snowden's fault for revealing all these surveillance pr…
So, if you, I dunno, cheated on her, and a friend who knew about it told her, then it would all be that friend's fault, right? People have weird ethics ...
> Economic losses to US businesses due to lost sales and declining customer trust. Whenever I have a discussion with friends on this topic, this is what I focus on. For many people, safety has a higher political priority than privacy. However, when you start saying that mass surveillance kills jobs, it gets much more attention because economic issues are usually on par or above safety concerns. This is why I don't un…
> For many people, safety has a higher political priority than privacy. However, when you start saying that mass surveillance kills jobs, it gets much more attention because economic issues are usually on par or above safety concerns. Then there are people like my wife, who thinks disclosure hurt the US politically and economically, thus rationalizing that it is Snowden's fault for revealing all these surveillance pr…
So it's not that what you're doing is wrong, or that you have something to hide. It's that someday, something you do today could come back on you. Better it be something that you choose to share than something the government discovers and keeps records of.
> Economic losses to US businesses due to lost sales and declining customer trust. Whenever I have a discussion with friends on this topic, this is what I focus on. For many people, safety has a higher political priority than privacy. However, when you start saying that mass surveillance kills jobs, it gets much more attention because economic issues are usually on par or above safety concerns. This is why I don't un…
> For many people, safety has a higher political priority than privacy. However, when you start saying that mass surveillance kills jobs, it gets much more attention because economic issues are usually on par or above safety concerns. Then there are people like my wife, who thinks disclosure hurt the US politically and economically, thus rationalizing that it is Snowden's fault for revealing all these surveillance pr…
I love how people still make noise about NSA, while gladly using facebook.
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and boy, does this need an amendment: when a farmer can be sued and forced to not grow food for his own family, and the suit is found valid because of Article I Section 8 we have a huge problem.
Eh? What's this?
There's some scary stuff in the farming regulation. There was a law in the works called NAIS (national animal ID system)that severely intrudes on people's right to raise their own livestock. It was stirring up a storm of controversy in homesteaders' circles a decade ago, though I don't know the current state of that is.
> The deterioration of internet security as a result of the NSA stockpiling zero-day vulnerabilities
Not quantified. It would be an awesome figure to reuse.
> Brazil reportedly scuttled a $4.5 billion fighter jet contract with Boeing
It's been criticized on HN: Most people believed blaming it on the NSA was a PR move [4], whereas the real underlying reasons where certainly more complex and not related.
> The CEO of the European firm reported that within a month after the first revelations of NSA spying went public, his company’s business jumped 45 percent
Totally irrelevant if the company is small.
> The Information Technology and Innovation Foundation has estimated that repercussions from the spying could cost the U.S. cloud computing industry some $22 to $35 billion over the next few years in lost business.
That's the best fact of the article. However I'm not sure Americans are impressed with it. In fact the country [1] doesn't mind spending $6 trillion for a war in Afghanistan [2], so they count those $35b as just another defense cost. Besides, the NSA itself was reported by Snowden with a budget of $14b in 2013 [3].
[1] I'm aware that's not what most US citizen like, but as a country, US did spend this money.
[2] http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-wars-in-afghanistan-iraq-to-...
[3] http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/29/4672414/leaked-snowden-doc...