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Google Co-Founders on Healthcare: “Thanks, But No Thanks”

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Re: Google Co-Founders on Healthcare: “Thanks, But No Thanks”

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post #8

When you fuck up in health, people can die. Regulation exists for a reason.

Where as the regulation has neither prevented people from fucking up nor dieing.

We do not even know how many people die every year because the increased cost of regulation and delayed time to market because of FDA.

Re: Google Co-Founders on Healthcare: “Thanks, But No Thanks”

#42
post #8

When you fuck up in health, people can die. Regulation exists for a reason.

Yes, because we all know heavily regulated VA hospitals haven't killed anyone. Oh wait.

That's due to a lack of funding.

http://www.bloomberg.com/image/iFbqs_CCtc4k.png

The VA has asked for budget increases many times, but was denied by congress. The result is completely predictable.

Re: Google Co-Founders on Healthcare: “Thanks, But No Thanks”

#43
post #35

It's worth noting that highly regulated industries are not necessarily bad for startups to enter, exactly because they throw up particularly high barriers to large companies. Google can't enter health without accepting the full baggage that comes with that - people worried about their privacy, every random nutter looking to sue them and get a payday, FDA breathing down their neck every step of the way, etc. A small s…

Often times the regulations were designed in cooperation with existing businesses in the industry precisely to keep more competition out.

Re: Google Co-Founders on Healthcare: “Thanks, But No Thanks”

#44
post #20

didn't G+ out some transgender people? http://www.zdnet.com/google-outed-me-7000025416/ now imagine the same with Google having access to all medical records. regulation around this exists for a very, very good reason.

By "outed", G+ exposed the user's public name to someone, connecting two public pieces of the user's data, that the user intended to keep separate. It was a poor UI experience, but it wasn't a private-data leak.

Connections aren't data?

Re: Google Co-Founders on Healthcare: “Thanks, But No Thanks”

#45
post #40
post #35

It's worth noting that highly regulated industries are not necessarily bad for startups to enter, exactly because they throw up particularly high barriers to large companies. Google can't enter health without accepting the full baggage that comes with that - people worried about their privacy, every random nutter looking to sue them and get a payday, FDA breathing down their neck every step of the way, etc. A small s…

It sounds very contradictory. In most of the heavily regulated industries such as healthcare or insurance, one of the economic efficiencies are a better understanding of the complex law, startups can not solve this inefficiency in their favor.

I'm not saying you don't need to understand the regulations and law - you absolutely do. But you do have an advantage in being able to be less conservative and more innovative in how you interpret them. For examples, take Uber and AirBnb - they are both pushing the boundaries of highly regulated industries. An existing hotel chain couldn't do it because they have too much to lose, and target such broad markets. But a scrappy startup can.

Re: Google Co-Founders on Healthcare: “Thanks, But No Thanks”

#46
I'd love to see them take an altruistic approach and shift the focus to countries like Africa where health projects would provide a lot more utility and have a lot less regulatory burden. Once a product is visibly working in one country it's more difficult to make cases against it elsewhere.

Re: Google Co-Founders on Healthcare: “Thanks, But No Thanks”

#47
post #20

didn't G+ out some transgender people? http://www.zdnet.com/google-outed-me-7000025416/ now imagine the same with Google having access to all medical records. regulation around this exists for a very, very good reason.

By "outed", G+ exposed the user's public name to someone, connecting two public pieces of the user's data, that the user intended to keep separate. It was a poor UI experience, but it wasn't a private-data leak.

You're kidding yourself if you don't think that is a private data leak.

Re: Google Co-Founders on Healthcare: “Thanks, But No Thanks”

#48
post #8

When you fuck up in health, people can die. Regulation exists for a reason.

A lot of the regulation has allowed people to die when there was a chance they would have lived without it. Regulations on advertising and OTC drugs are absolutely needed, but stopping a doctor from prescribing a risky drug to a terminally ill patient who will die without it anyway is counterproductive.

The main reason people aren't healthy has nothing to do with the medical system or regulation. It has everything to do with lifestyle. Technology will not help at all in that regard. The mobile-device generation will be less healthy and even more physically disconnected than the current one, which is a horrifying thought given how bad the state of affairs is right now.

Man is a physical animal, and movement will always beat analysis when it comes to improving health outcomes. We already know how to improve health, we choose not to do it.

Re: Google Co-Founders on Healthcare: “Thanks, But No Thanks”

#49
post #34
post #6

Healthcare is heavily regulated, and I understand why some companies would be reluctant to branch out into it. But that doesn't mean the privacy and legal concerns surrounding HIPAA regulations are unwarranted. Yea, it would be nice if we lived in an ethical utopia where we wouldn't have to feel worried about people looking through our health records. But we don't. I would not feel comfortable with my health records…

Why don't they just buy an island make their own country with their own rules?? ;)

Not sure who downvoted you, but this is indeed the essence of one of the counterpoints against regulation-- that if we regulate an industry, the innovation in that industry will simply occur elsewhere in the world, outside of US regulation.

Re: Google Co-Founders on Healthcare: “Thanks, But No Thanks”

#50

I'm surprised the blog post mentions nothing about Google Health. Basically, Google has already tried this and failed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Health

Failed seems like an unfair characterization.

Another possibility is they thought it was a cool idea, then found out how regulated it was, how it would be nearly impossible to add any features without massive government oversight, and got out.

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