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Re: Works With Nest

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Post by cbeach »

jpalomaki wrote: post #34

It gets pretty interesting when you connect all the pieces Google now has. You car has build in Android device. Your home is monitored and controlled with Nest devices. On your wrist you carry Android wearable. Google Glass tracks what you see. For online activities you use Google products (Chrome, Gmail, Calendar). You consume your media via Android table or Chromecast. Google knows about your your car. It knows how…

Given Google's fondness for shutting down APIs and services, I'd be very disappointed if they monopolised all of these markets. They'll be the Microsoft of home automation. Using it to trap people in their monolith (and Android is just a vehicle for them to deliver ads, folks), and then letting it stagnate or shutting it down if the ad delivery doesn't prove lucrative.

I've been burnt so many times by Google I've lost count. Shutting down the Finance API, banning me from Adsense without explanation, shutting down Reader, cutting email deliverability across gmail from my server. Tying the wrong product reviews to my website on Google search.

I don't want one company to rule the internet. I don't want a MS-esque services monolith. I want a few product-focussed companies like Nest to exist and compete indepently using open standards.

Re: Works With Nest

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Post by marcomonteiro »

vnorby wrote: post #13
yitchelle wrote: post #8

I am a little bit unenthusiastic about Nest integration into the Mercedes Benz where it tells Nest to warm up the house prior to arrival. What a waste of energy! Is it so difficult for physical human body to endure some discomfort while the house warms up? Imagine thousands of household doing something similar. OK, there could be a use-case where the elderly is due to arrive home and needs the house to be at the righ…

Wasting/saving energy is not as simple a calculation as that. When energy is at peak use (say in the winter, around 5:30/6:00 when everybody returns from work), it becomes more expensive for energy companies to procure the requisite energy needed. During these peak times, they often have to buy energy from other companies at a higher cost or find less efficient means of generating it (e.g. coal) to meet the demand. G…

Hey Vibhu, Marco on the Apps Team at Nest.

Re: Works With Nest

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Post by sumukh1 »

The demo video may have revealed a little bit about Nest's strategy here. The video showed Whirlpool relying on the Nest thermostat to be the smart hub and help control the energy usage.

Nest seems to be selling the user experience right now (Thermostat, API etc) - but they are also positioning themselves to be at the center of the "smart home"

Re: Works With Nest

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Post by amrrs »

cbeach wrote: post #32
AVTizzle wrote: post #18

Looking at the Nest lineup, I was reminded of that adage: "Google is getting better at design faster than Apple is getting better at web services." Those products look damn good.

Of course they look good. They were designed by the Nest team, not by Google's own designers. Nest was an acquisition, and I can't see those guys getting involved in the huge challenge of making Google's other properties look good.

And co-founder of Nest is ex-Apple guy. Now you know from where the growth comes.

Re: Works With Nest

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Post by AVTizzle »

cbeach wrote: post #32
AVTizzle wrote: post #18

Looking at the Nest lineup, I was reminded of that adage: "Google is getting better at design faster than Apple is getting better at web services." Those products look damn good.

Of course they look good. They were designed by the Nest team, not by Google's own designers. Nest was an acquisition, and I can't see those guys getting involved in the huge challenge of making Google's other properties look good.

You're absolutely right. I understand, and completely agree. But by virtue of said acquisition, Nest's design chops == Google's design chops.

Re: Works With Nest

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Post by ghayes »

warcode wrote: post #31

If its "Your data. Your privacy. You’re in control.". Why won't they let me self-host? The two things don't add up.

My primary concern is my house becoming part of Google's walled garden. "Oh, my garage door doesn't work anymore as it is controlled exclusively by 'Works with Nest.'"

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Post by julianpye »

The original Nest device is so popular among the general population because of its UX, display and colorful feedback. "Works with Nest" is amazing for us techies, who know the technical feat behind all this interoperability, but to the average consumer transparent technology and complex automation is a really hard sell. The mass market consumer still want to touch, feel and see the things they pay for. However as a 'shop hub' for great designed devices that play along, "Works with Nest" is great. Also I am sure "Works with Nest" is a great vehicle for corporate deals of Google, since it allows them to do co-promotions (such as Mercedes) as side-projects which are usually embedded in such agreements.

Re: Works With Nest

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Post by tempestn »

cbeach wrote: post #41
jpalomaki wrote: post #34

It gets pretty interesting when you connect all the pieces Google now has. You car has build in Android device. Your home is monitored and controlled with Nest devices. On your wrist you carry Android wearable. Google Glass tracks what you see. For online activities you use Google products (Chrome, Gmail, Calendar). You consume your media via Android table or Chromecast. Google knows about your your car. It knows how…

Given Google's fondness for shutting down APIs and services, I'd be very disappointed if they monopolised all of these markets. They'll be the Microsoft of home automation. Using it to trap people in their monolith (and Android is just a vehicle for them to deliver ads, folks), and then letting it stagnate or shutting it down if the ad delivery doesn't prove lucrative. I've been burnt so many times by Google I've los…

Just wanted to say I agree 100%. I expect that Google is going to do very well with all the building blocks they have in place, but I view that prospect with a great deal more trepidation than excitement. (Although I wouldn't say none of the latter; things like self-driving cars are certainly cool, and having Google behind that sort of project makes it much more likely that it will happen in the near term.)

Re: Works With Nest

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Post by skreech »

yitchelle wrote: post #8

I am a little bit unenthusiastic about Nest integration into the Mercedes Benz where it tells Nest to warm up the house prior to arrival. What a waste of energy! Is it so difficult for physical human body to endure some discomfort while the house warms up? Imagine thousands of household doing something similar. OK, there could be a use-case where the elderly is due to arrive home and needs the house to be at the righ…

Here is the same principle but using a smartphone for geo-location instead of a car. They claim up to 26% energy savings annually: http://www.tado.com/de-en/#your-day-with-tado
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