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Software Programmers Should Never Have Dress Codes

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Re: Software Programmers Should Never Have Dress Codes

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This is an excellent point that I'm amazed no one has made. It's entirely possible to dress very well but without wearing a suit/blazer/wool pants, etc. There are tasteful, well tailored, yet casual clothes all over the place. A slob in a suit is still a slob.

Very true. I'm not even sure I would trust a coder in a suit and tie..

That's rather judgmental of you... I thought the whole point being driven by every crunchy, sandals-wearing startupmeister here was that clothes don't matter. How bigoted to immediately dismiss someone for dressing differently.

Re: Software Programmers Should Never Have Dress Codes

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Oh come on, programmers aren't special. (I know, I am one). Clothes are communication. You dress to a minimal standard to show respect for others, and to communicate "seriousness". Sometimes, you have to spell the standard out out. I have worked with people who wear torn or worn out t-shirts and similarly worn out shorts. It turns off some potential employees and customers who catch a glimpse of them - fair or not. S…

You're implying that there are only two options: strict dress code and a bunch of smelly guys wearing torn jeans/old tshirts.

>Clothes are communication.

Bingo. But what is dress code if not an attempt at killing communication?

So what do you have when you have all employees dressed in slacks and shirts and suits? Isn't it an attempt at supressing communication? An attempt at supressing individuality and instead forcing a corporate culture of obedience, brainwashing, mindless loyalty and mediocrity?

Fuck that! I will not be forced to be dressed in a suit. I might choose to wear a suit if I want to communicate obedience and professionalism. I might choose to wear a turtleneck sweater and jeans. I might choose to wear a ripped tshirt and shorts. I might choose to wear a robe or pajamas. See where I'm going with this?

You are asking for communication yet asking me to lie? You want respect? Fuck respect, fuck professionalism, and fuck all these things that make life sour, dead, and joyless.

You say respect and seriousness. Since when did respect became better than honesty and truthfulness? Since when did "seriousness" became more important that joyful curiousity, aesthetics, and playfulness? Since when banality became better than destructive creativity?

I will die, I know that. And I will not spend my short life dressed up and living like some fucking corporate schmuck wants me to because it's "professional" or "serious".

Yeah, programmers aren't special. I'm not arguing that programmers should be exceptions to dress code. I'm arguing that dress code in itself should be placed on the shelf with slavery, religion, and all those other retarded mores.

Re: Software Programmers Should Never Have Dress Codes

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The responses in this thread are convincing me that a dress code is a great idea. It would keep out the socially clueless nerds nobody wants to be around.

I dress in old t-shirts and cheap jeans to keep away the people who would judge me so shallowly.

Why would someone dress in such a way to turn people away?

Re: Software Programmers Should Never Have Dress Codes

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I dress in old t-shirts and cheap jeans to keep away the people who would judge me so shallowly.

Why would someone dress in such a way to turn people away?

To keep from having to deal with their obnoxious BS.

Re: Software Programmers Should Never Have Dress Codes

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There's dress codes, and there's dress codes. I think most institutions should have some form of dress code. For example: Do I really have to look at someone's hairy legs or toes or arse when they sit to close to me in a meeting? Do I have to listen to the flip-flops someone is wearing as they walk past my office 20 times in 10 minutes? Do I really need cleavage distracting me all day?

So, maybe some minimal dress code makes sense and can prevent embarassing situations or situations where other's are made uncomfortable by someone else's clothes (or lack of them).

But, having to wear a suit & tie everyday, or khakis & shirt/polo shirt, no thanks.

Re: Software Programmers Should Never Have Dress Codes

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I dress in old t-shirts and cheap jeans to keep away the people who would judge me so shallowly.

Why would someone dress in such a way to turn people away?

Do you think people in thousand-dollar suits are more approachable? Personally, I do not.

Re: Software Programmers Should Never Have Dress Codes

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Oh come on, programmers aren't special. (I know, I am one). Clothes are communication. You dress to a minimal standard to show respect for others, and to communicate "seriousness". Sometimes, you have to spell the standard out out. I have worked with people who wear torn or worn out t-shirts and similarly worn out shorts. It turns off some potential employees and customers who catch a glimpse of them - fair or not. S…

What I really don't get is these people who seem to WANT to look like shit. We don't have a dress code here. I could easily wear jeans over half the time. But I don't and nobody else does because it looks horrible. Personally, I find being surrounded by well dressed people a substantial workplace selling point. Do you have any idea how juvenile and tasteless you look in cheap jeans and sneakers? Do you realize how mu…

See, that's a matter of taste. I think suits look ridiculous, and jeans look much more like clothes that real people wear, rather than a costume.
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