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Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699

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Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699

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Post by steffan »

cbhl wrote: post #7
brianbreslin wrote: post #3

Any idea how new of a macbook you would need to power this? I'm guessing my 2012 13" air can't run it right?

Even a brand-new Macbook would be unable to power this display. All currently sold Macbooks can only power displays up to 2560 by 1600; the Macbook Air can power one external display at this resolution, and the Macbook Pro can power two. (Edit: The iMac can also only power one additional display at the same resolution.) If you want to use a Mac with a 4K display, consider getting a Mac Pro, which can power up to thre…

I'm using a 4K monitor with a late-2013 MacBook Pro

Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699

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Post by jychang »

jsmthrowaway wrote: post #39
brokenparser wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but you're talking about TV's where it's fine if it has a 16:9 aspect because all of the content is in 16:9. If I buy a monitor, I want it to have a proper 16:10 aspect because it matches the ratio of the W*XGA displays it would replace/complement. More specifically, I don't want to be left out of those extra lines and would feel cheated by Dell in this regard if I either bought it or had to use one due to a bud…

If you want separate resolutions for computer monitors and televisions you are going to pay a premium for both, since different supply chains are focusing on two different kinds of panel. You want the two industries working on the same thing, and that's already happening. I've been 1080p on my workstation for a long time. I can't wait for 4K TV monitors and they will be my next upgrade for my workstation once the pri…

> My comment up-thread discusses why television shifting to 16:10 is unlikely, and it mainly has to do with lenses.

It's not lenses as much as sensors. Most lenses have a circular image circle, which can cover a lot of aspect ratios. (The big exception is anamorphic, but I'm not too familiar with that.) Canon's new HD video lens system, for example, can be stuck on cameras with Super 35 sensors, or standard 3:2 photography 35mm film.

Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699

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Post by alan_cx »

mgraczyk wrote: post #16

I remember shopping for large format LCD panels in 2011. I equivocated for a while between a 30" HP for around $800 and a 30" Dell, and eventually ended up buying Dell's u3011 for around $1100. I also remember thinking how unreasonably high the prices were for large LCD panels and hoping that they wouldn't stay that way forever. It was a time when my monitor cost more than my computer. I think it's safe to say that t…

What is your definition of good desktop speakers and price? In the UK we can get this sort of thing:

http://www.richersounds.com/product/standmount-speakers/camb...

Which are great desktop speakers at £80GBP

Nothing like this in your neck of the woods?

Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699

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Post by jychang »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #27
shimon_e wrote: post #25

It shouldn't be long before some Korean/Chinese factory starts selling these for half price on ebay.

If I could buy one of these for even 6000 RMB in China I would get it in a heartbeat. Alas, it will take a long time for that to happen.

That's $1000 USD... Can't you just get the Dell version imported?

Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699

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Post by nkerkin »

BadassFractal wrote: post #34

I can't believe we might finally start seeing some movement in the resolution world outside of the Macbook realm. Think this will ever make it to laptops? Dell announces the year 2025 Ubuntu Programmer Edition ;) On an unrelated note, I have a last-gen Intel Haswell CPU with the HD4600. There's no way I can power this, can I?

Apple aren't the only ones that have been innovating in this space. For example, the terribly named Samsung Ativ Book 9 Plus has a ~20% higher pixel density than MBPs.

It looks as though the HD4600 should be able to push UHD using DisplayPort

Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699

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Post by Void_ »

mgraczyk wrote: post #16

I remember shopping for large format LCD panels in 2011. I equivocated for a while between a 30" HP for around $800 and a 30" Dell, and eventually ended up buying Dell's u3011 for around $1100. I also remember thinking how unreasonably high the prices were for large LCD panels and hoping that they wouldn't stay that way forever. It was a time when my monitor cost more than my computer. I think it's safe to say that t…

Soundsticks? http://www.amazon.com/Harman-Kardon-Soundsticks-III-Multimed...

Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699

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Post by chx »

BadassFractal wrote: post #34

I can't believe we might finally start seeing some movement in the resolution world outside of the Macbook realm. Think this will ever make it to laptops? Dell announces the year 2025 Ubuntu Programmer Edition ;) On an unrelated note, I have a last-gen Intel Haswell CPU with the HD4600. There's no way I can power this, can I?

It already made it to laptops: http://www.slashgear.com/toshiba-tecra-w50-and-satellite-p50... Toshiba Tecra W50 and Satellite P50t get 4K display updates

Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699

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Post by jsmthrowaway »

jychang wrote: post #42
jsmthrowaway wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want separate resolutions for computer monitors and televisions you are going to pay a premium for both, since different supply chains are focusing on two different kinds of panel. You want the two industries working on the same thing, and that's already happening. I've been 1080p on my workstation for a long time. I can't wait for 4K TV monitors and they will be my next upgrade for my workstation once the pri…

> My comment up-thread discusses why television shifting to 16:10 is unlikely, and it mainly has to do with lenses. It's not lenses as much as sensors. Most lenses have a circular image circle, which can cover a lot of aspect ratios. (The big exception is anamorphic, but I'm not too familiar with that.) Canon's new HD video lens system, for example, can be stuck on cameras with Super 35 sensors, or standard 3:2 photo…

During the digital transition, we had to buy new bodies and new lenses. My understanding is that the transition to 4K will allow the same exact lenses to be used whether on a new body or the same body with a swapped-out sensor train. Going to 16:10, as I understand, would require new lenses, which is part of the reason NHK's demonstration of 4K equipment as a straight multiple of 1080p was desirable.

I'm not an expert on the mechanics of how a lens works; I merely know enough to operate the camera and shoot a decent scene, and part of that is lens selection. If you can operate a 16:10 sensor behind, say, a HA18x7.6BERD with square pixels and no distortion or image loss, I stand corrected, but I don't think that's the case from my experience. Again, though, I just pushed buttons (in a single industry application of "transmit picture through lens and apply to persistent storage", television ENG/production), and I didn't take gear apart.

I know there are lenses today that can operate at 4:3 and 16:9. Maybe the same concept?

Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699

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Post by Moto7451 »

noinsight wrote: post #33
abstein2 wrote: post #20

Hopefully it will have a DisplayPort out like the U2713H or a Cinema Display. The fact that the U2713HM doesn't have one makes high-res dual displays a pain for PC laptops.

You mean mini DisplayPort? Because the U2713HM has a DisplayPort. I actually have the U2713HM and in my experience DisplayPort is a pain in the behind. I don't know if it's the monitor or the connection in general but whichever it is, it seems to suck. If I move my desktop an inch it will drop the signal completely, I'm not exaggerating one bit. It seems like if I even shake the cable a bit I lose the connection and…

Seems more like a Linux Driver/Display Port disagreement (or maybe your hardware) than DisplayPort as a spec. DisplayPort has been spotless on my 2012 MBPr under OS X and Windows. Ditto at work for numerous Lenovo, Dell, and Asus laptops running Windows and various flavors of Ubuntu.

DVI on the other hand, on my MBPr, will occasionally spaz out and display static. I've tried with multiple monitors of the same model with to same effect.

(For what it's worth we pretty much use only Dell 2412 monitors at work).

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