If this gives me (personally) a significantly better viewing experience at normal distance than the 1680x1050 I have now, I won't just buy it, I'll eat it.
Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699
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Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699
#32It shouldn't be long before some Korean/Chinese factory starts selling these for half price on ebay.
Please yes, someone do this. Pretty much every programmer I know would get one (or two ^^)
Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699
#33Hopefully it will have a DisplayPort out like the U2713H or a Cinema Display. The fact that the U2713HM doesn't have one makes high-res dual displays a pain for PC laptops.
You mean mini DisplayPort?
Because the U2713HM has a DisplayPort.
I actually have the U2713HM and in my experience DisplayPort is a pain in the behind. I don't know if it's the monitor or the connection in general but whichever it is, it seems to suck.
If I move my desktop an inch it will drop the signal completely, I'm not exaggerating one bit. It seems like if I even shake the cable a bit I lose the connection and when it does that it doesn't reconnect at all anymore, at least on Linux, without replugging the cable. Because it's a desktop I have to crawl under the desktop to replug the connection.
At first I was using it on Intel graphics (i7 2600k) and sometimes I didn't get video at all on boot, dmesg had messages about "DisplayPort link training failed" or whatever. I had to reboot to get signal or replug both monitors in specific order and play with xrandr. I also started experiencing massive GPU hangs on Intel, don't know if it's related, but eventually I gave up and bought a passively cooled ATI. I have the same exact problems with that. I even bought a second DisplayPort cable, thinking that might be the problem. Nope. I even keep getting the similar "link training failed" messages with ATI.
The connection seems to work fine if you get it working once and treat the cable like it's cursed and avoid touching anything ever.
Don't know if it's the monitor or the connection in general though. What I do know is that the monitor also buzzes when there's lots of text on the screen (i.e. just open Wikipedia in a browser) which drives me insane at night if it's silent. Googling seems to indicate it's a problem with this model. Some "premium" display huh?
If the future of display connectors is DisplayPort I will cry myself to sleep at night.
Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699
#34I can't believe we might finally start seeing some movement in the resolution world outside of the Macbook realm. Think this will ever make it to laptops? Dell announces the year 2025 Ubuntu Programmer Edition ;)
On an unrelated note, I have a last-gen Intel Haswell CPU with the HD4600. There's no way I can power this, can I?
Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699
#35Note: according to the article the monitor is actually UHDTV (3840x2160), not 4K (4096x2160). Content encoded at 4K will need to be either cropped or scaled down, similar to 1080p content shown on a 1240x1024 monitor.
That's not correct. The resolution you are referring to is the native running resolution of 4K projectors in cinemas established by DCI. If you were being legal about it, which your comment is a little bit, "actual" 4K is 4096x2560. A "proper" 4K film shown at DCI resolution is cropped by removing lines due to the combination of aspect ratio between film and projector. The trend in film photography, however, is towar…
Yes, but you're talking about TV's where it's fine if it has a 16:9 aspect because all of the content is in 16:9. If I buy a monitor, I want it to have a proper 16:10 aspect because it matches the ratio of the W*XGA displays it would replace/complement. More specifically, I don't want to be left out of those extra lines and would feel cheated by Dell in this regard if I either bought it or had to use one due to a budget stricken IT department. A TV is a TV and a monitor is a monitor. The thing they're selling is a TV without a tuner and remote control, marketed as a monitor.
Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699
#36It shouldn't be long before some Korean/Chinese factory starts selling these for half price on ebay.
Please yes, someone do this. Pretty much every programmer I know would get one (or two ^^)
I could do it if anyone wants help me financially or with marketing. I've got many years of direct factory sourcing in China. First came here a decade ago and I've been living here for the most part of the past 3 years.
Is there a way to be contacted through HN?
Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699
#37Note: according to the article the monitor is actually UHDTV (3840x2160), not 4K (4096x2160). Content encoded at 4K will need to be either cropped or scaled down, similar to 1080p content shown on a 1240x1024 monitor.
The marketing droids won, you'll just have to get over it. Even the $3,600 Sharp monitor Apple sells that's labeled "4K" has the same resolution: With its 32-inch class (31.5-inch diagonal) screen size, 3840 by 2160 Ultra-HD resolution... http://store.apple.com/us/product/HD971LL/A/sharp-32-pn-k321... You and I can be bitter about it all we want, but there's no point.
They also finally cashed in the 'big side vs. small side' credit they've been holding onto since they first branded HD (720 and 1080 are the (exact) pixel-lengths of the small sides, while 4k is (less than) the length of the big side).
Edit: Not only that, but they can (defendably) make the claim that 4k is "4 times the size of 1080p" while (deniably) knowing that some people will misinterpret.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please yes, someone do this. Pretty much every programmer I know would get one (or two ^^)
I could do it if anyone wants help me financially or with marketing. I've got many years of direct factory sourcing in China. First came here a decade ago and I've been living here for the most part of the past 3 years. Is there a way to be contacted through HN?
Sure, just put a contact email in your profile.
Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not correct. The resolution you are referring to is the native running resolution of 4K projectors in cinemas established by DCI. If you were being legal about it, which your comment is a little bit, "actual" 4K is 4096x2560. A "proper" 4K film shown at DCI resolution is cropped by removing lines due to the combination of aspect ratio between film and projector. The trend in film photography, however, is towar…
Yes, but you're talking about TV's where it's fine if it has a 16:9 aspect because all of the content is in 16:9. If I buy a monitor, I want it to have a proper 16:10 aspect because it matches the ratio of the W*XGA displays it would replace/complement. More specifically, I don't want to be left out of those extra lines and would feel cheated by Dell in this regard if I either bought it or had to use one due to a bud…
If you want separate resolutions for computer monitors and televisions you are going to pay a premium for both, since different supply chains are focusing on two different kinds of panel. You want the two industries working on the same thing, and that's already happening. I've been 1080p on my workstation for a long time. I can't wait for 4K TV monitors and they will be my next upgrade for my workstation once the price is right.
My comment up-thread discusses why television shifting to 16:10 is unlikely, and it mainly has to do with lenses. Another concern is all of the monitors in studios, trucks, and so forth that are 16:9. Given that, it seems fair to me to have computing move toward 16:9 so the toolchains can be shared between computer monitors and televisions. My 55" 1080p TV was $2,000 when I bought it. You can now buy it under $1,000. What's wrong with taking that experience and working on computer monitors?
Computers are increasingly being used to deliver television and cinema content, as well. It's fairly ideal for me right now to consume 1080p content at its native resolution with no boxing or cropping.
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#40I have a 39in 4k monitor that I bought for $500. The only problem is that 4k monitors through HDMI can only run at 30Hz, which is extremely noticeable. There might be a way to run at 60Hz but I haven't got it to work yet. Here's the monitor: http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-Digital-SE39UY04-39-Inch-Ultra/d...
Even DisplayPort 1.2 doesn't have enough bandwidth to push 60Hz. You're going to have to wait for a newer spec.