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Uruguay is the Economist's Country of the Year

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Re: Uruguay is the Economist's Country of the Year

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Seems like Uruguay exports a lot of IT services kinda like India does. Any Uruguayan here that would like to comment about this firsthand?

Far from the same scale, but providing IT services (software development and testing for the most of it) is pretty big here.

I was going to say much the same thing. We're 3 million people , not a billion like India :) .

But we do have a lot of people working in IT (about 15.000), we export 2% our GDP in Software, and Indian companies like Tata Consultancy Services have offices here, serving the US market.

I hope it will grow even more. One positive for uruguayans but negative for exports is that salaries are much higher than in India or some parts of Eastern Europe (but a LOT lower than in the U.S.), so we are not so competitive in the "lowest bidder outsourcing", we should aim to be a high-end and niche provider, but don't have the culture yet.

Graduates from both public and private universities are very capable but we need some more training to match U.S. expectations.

I've heard Google doesn't recruit much here because of the lack of PhDs in computer science (which is a definite lack), and there's a lot of emphasis on Java and .NET which doesn't help if the market is looking for iOS or Android or Ruby developers (the Java and .NET outsourcing market being cornered by indians?).

Re: Uruguay is the Economist's Country of the Year

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Apparantly Scotland is "foolhardy" if it opts for "secession", but Ireland, which already did opt for secession (less pejoratively, secession is typically known as independence once it is acheived), is a resiliant example to us all, with its HDI and economy miles above that of Scotland, and that despite a total lack of oil, and despite a bad housing bust. Funny, that. You have to be very careful with the Economist be…

Irish independence has more in common with Indian independence than with Scottish. Scotland isn't run as a colonial possession to generate wealth for the English ruling class, the inhabitants be damned Scots get votes and civil rights and all those goodies, the situations aren't comparable.

Re: Uruguay is the Economist's Country of the Year

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Uruguayan here and proud of my little country. We do have our fair share of issues like any other country on the world, but overall we are doing pretty good and life here is good.

Uruguayan here too. This makes me quite proud indeed too!

For people that aren't aware, we do have our fair share of problems, Uruguay is being being given a too romantic view by the international media IMO.

The main ones being IMO (no particular order, and many related):

- Cases of extreme poverty and "slums" where a lot of people grow up in very negative environments.

- Lack of security! Lots of problems with violence and violent robberies.

- In many cases, not good enough education for the non wealthy, same for the public health system.

- A big problem with drug abuse, specially with drugs like "pasta base", similar to crack.

Definitely gay marriage and cannabis legalization are steps in the right direction but we have a long way to go.

I agree with the OP though, life is pretty good over Uruguay, I've been living abroad for a year now and miss the hell out of my country :) It's a very unique little county, no place like home.

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I'm from uruguay, and i don't really see this as a good thing. And don't }ook at our president Mujica as a great leader, he killed douzens during his youth.

I'm from Uruguay too, and while I didn't vote for Mujica, and probably wouldn't vote for his party, he did pay for his crimes, and in a pretty inhumane form too (11 years in a well) and we agreed as a country to leave those crimes behind for peace sake.

You can say a lot of things about him now, you might disagree with every single one of his political decisions, but you can't say he didn't got rid of his violent ways, in fact, for someone who used to be and extreme leftist, he is pretty centered now, and definitely not violent.

Re: Uruguay is the Economist's Country of the Year

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Uruguayan here, be prepared to face security issues, bad education quality and very high prices in general if considering moving here.

Can you talk more about this? I have some cousins who moved there who reported feeling very safe (and they were coming from Switzerland...). I had a contractor there for a while and the main issue he had with high prices was on imported electronics due to tariffs. Otherwise, everyone I've spoken to has said housing, food, etc are very affordable. What's the issue with education, IE: funding? access?

Depends on where you live. I was robbed twice this year (two laptops, a Kindle, and all my electronics, which as you mention are twice as expensive than in the U.S.).

Some neighbourhoods are really safe, I used to live in Punta Carretas for a while, and it's equivalent to an European city, but many others aren't - never ever go downtown after dark, and some other neighbourhoods are like the Brazilian favelas - police doesn't enter there.

Housing is in a bubble right now, it used to be affordable a few years ago but it's not right now (I had to move to a cheaper neighbourhood because I was priced out of my rent, went up 20% yearly). Food is a little more expensive than in Europe.

Education is universal, everyone has access. The country is doing consistently bad on worldwide tests (the PISA score) and that's being made a big deal.

Re: Uruguay is the Economist's Country of the Year

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If OP was referring to Northern Ireland, then s/he should have said so, since "Ireland" generally refers to Ireland, and Ireland did secede, while NI did not.

Isn't this more complicated than that? Declaring you've 'Seceeded' doesn't mean a new state is created/recongnized; there's a county in Iowa that 'seceeded' but it didn't change anything. Just sayin, how many people on the street know about anything but their hometown much less than the internal politics of Ireland.

Is pretty simple really.

Nothern Ireland is a part of the UK. So it definitely did not seceed from the UK.

The Republic of Ireland, is a seperate country with completely different government and currency, that used to be part of the UK but isn't any more, so it has definitely seceeded.

That county in Iowa, it is actually still part of the USA and has not managed to separate itself either legally, economically, or through force of arms. It is clearly not a separate sovereign nation. It has not seceeded from the USA.

Re: Uruguay is the Economist's Country of the Year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> while Ireland is inspirational. This Ireland? http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/eu-chief-barro... > Europe did not cause of the problems for Ireland; Ireland caused a problem for Europe, the head of the EU government said. > Following the bailout exit, the Government's bid to get backdated funding for the banking sector was dealt a spectacular blow as the head of the European Commission blamed the Irish…

Barroso is far from a neutral observer in all this. Personally I think it is extremely disengeneous of him to say Europe wasn't a problem for Ireland (and indeed there were major efforts to row back on the above comments subsequently). While there's no doubt lax regulation of the banking sector was the major cause of Ireland's problems initially, it is now widely accepted that the Irish Government was told in no unce…

I agree that it would have been better to put more of the burden of the housing bust on bondholders. However, Ireland has benefitted tremendously from Europe over the past decades.

It has received tens of billions in direct financial aid (and I don't mean the loans that were part of the current bailout). Its European neighbors have tolerated Irish tax policies that have put Ireland squarely at the center of the most fanciful tax evasion schemes used by both European and US corporations.

But it hasn't just been shell companies and tax evasion that has made Ireland rich. There's also genuine success that wouldn't have been possible if Ireland hadn't become a gateway into the EU for US corporations like Google.

So before choosing a path that was possible for tiny Iceland, Ireland did have to ask itself whether a move that could have destabilized the global financial system and threatened the existence of the EU was consistent with the solidarity it owes to those who have supported it in the past.

Ireland made the right choice at the time, but I also think that as things stabalize, it would be a good idea to renegotiate some of the bailout terms. After all, some of the foreign counter parties that were effectively bailed out by the Irish government benefitted greatly from the Irish housing boom while it lasted.

Re: Uruguay is the Economist's Country of the Year

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Uruguayan here and proud of my little country. We do have our fair share of issues like any other country on the world, but overall we are doing pretty good and life here is good.

This Uruguayan had the opposite to say: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6905503
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