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Re: Uruguay is the Economist's Country of the Year

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Post by robbiep » Thu, Dec 26, 2013, 1:05 PM UTC

nmeofthestate wrote: post #18

jpttsn wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're saying it's hypocritical to oppose the independence of Scotland, because there are examples of countries who have done well after their independence?

Not hypocritical, just demonstrating poor judgement due to a lack of objectivity. As a relatively right wing, conservative English publication they're opposed to independence for Scotland but of course express this in terms of it being a bad idea for Scotland. this despite all the evidence that smaller countries do better. I'll now most likely be down voted for pointing that out.

Yep, because choosing a country with strong socialist leanings that has legalised marijuana and a number of other similar liberal measures as 'country of the year' - whatever that means - makes sense if a publication can be entirely defined in terms of where one commenter feels they fit on the political spectrum.

Declaring them opposed to Scottish independence for being a conservative publication in a post regarding their seeming love for a left wing country doesn't cognitively mesh well.

Re: Uruguay is the Economist's Country of the Year

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Post by Tombar » Thu, Dec 26, 2013, 1:34 PM UTC

Uruguayan here and proud of my little country.

We do have our fair share of issues like any other country on the world, but overall we are doing pretty good and life here is good.

Re: Uruguay is the Economist's Country of the Year

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Post by jpttsn » Thu, Dec 26, 2013, 1:38 PM UTC

nmeofthestate wrote: post #18

jpttsn wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're saying it's hypocritical to oppose the independence of Scotland, because there are examples of countries who have done well after their independence?

Not hypocritical, just demonstrating poor judgement due to a lack of objectivity. As a relatively right wing, conservative English publication they're opposed to independence for Scotland but of course express this in terms of it being a bad idea for Scotland. this despite all the evidence that smaller countries do better. I'll now most likely be down voted for pointing that out.

So if The Economist is against Scottish independence, this is evidence that they're not objective? There's something missing from your argument.

Re: Uruguay is the Economist's Country of the Year

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Post by 6d0debc071 » Thu, Dec 26, 2013, 1:42 PM UTC

redxblood wrote: post #5

I'm from uruguay, and i don't really see this as a good thing. And don't }ook at our president Mujica as a great leader, he killed douzens during his youth.

If he's good at organising a country, then a dozen people here and there really isn't anything compared to the benefits of his doing so. Someone can be a good leader and still be a horrible person.

Re: Uruguay is the Economist's Country of the Year

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Post by ig1 » Thu, Dec 26, 2013, 1:50 PM UTC

JetSetWilly wrote: post #15

Apparantly Scotland is "foolhardy" if it opts for "secession", but Ireland, which already did opt for secession (less pejoratively, secession is typically known as independence once it is acheived), is a resiliant example to us all, with its HDI and economy miles above that of Scotland, and that despite a total lack of oil, and despite a bad housing bust. Funny, that. You have to be very careful with the Economist be…

You realize that North Sea Oil is well past it's peak ? - production has declined by nearly a half since 1999 and at current projections it'll be at a third of it's peak by 2020.

The UK has a whole has already become a net importer rather than exporter.

There are strong arguments in favour of scottish independence but largely they're down to cultural rather than economic reasons.

Re: Uruguay is the Economist's Country of the Year

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Post by DanBC » Thu, Dec 26, 2013, 1:58 PM UTC

JetSetWilly wrote: post #15

Apparantly Scotland is "foolhardy" if it opts for "secession", but Ireland, which already did opt for secession (less pejoratively, secession is typically known as independence once it is acheived), is a resiliant example to us all, with its HDI and economy miles above that of Scotland, and that despite a total lack of oil, and despite a bad housing bust. Funny, that. You have to be very careful with the Economist be…

> while Ireland is inspirational.

This Ireland? http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/eu-chief-barro...

> Europe did not cause of the problems for Ireland; Ireland caused a problem for Europe, the head of the EU government said.

> Following the bailout exit, the Government's bid to get backdated funding for the banking sector was dealt a spectacular blow as the head of the European Commission blamed the Irish banks, regulators and government for the difficulties in the country.

> Categorically rejecting suggestions Ireland should now be helped by Europe, at least in the short to medium term, European Commission President Jose-Manuel Barroso cut loose on Ireland.

Re: Uruguay is the Economist's Country of the Year

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Post by jwilliams » Thu, Dec 26, 2013, 2:10 PM UTC

DanBC wrote: post #26

JetSetWilly wrote: post #15

Apparantly Scotland is "foolhardy" if it opts for "secession", but Ireland, which already did opt for secession (less pejoratively, secession is typically known as independence once it is acheived), is a resiliant example to us all, with its HDI and economy miles above that of Scotland, and that despite a total lack of oil, and despite a bad housing bust. Funny, that. You have to be very careful with the Economist be…

> while Ireland is inspirational. This Ireland? http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/eu-chief-barro... > Europe did not cause of the problems for Ireland; Ireland caused a problem for Europe, the head of the EU government said. > Following the bailout exit, the Government's bid to get backdated funding for the banking sector was dealt a spectacular blow as the head of the European Commission blamed the Irish…

The OP was probably referring to Northern Ireland, which is a devolved part of the UK (and uses GBP) - Whereas your article refers to the Republic of Ireland, which is in the Eurozone.

Re: Uruguay is the Economist's Country of the Year

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Post by dysoco » Thu, Dec 26, 2013, 2:11 PM UTC

Can you guys please invade Argentina? I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks.

Re: Uruguay is the Economist's Country of the Year

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Post by gclaramunt » Thu, Dec 26, 2013, 2:40 PM UTC

redxblood wrote: post #5

I'm from uruguay, and i don't really see this as a good thing. And don't }ook at our president Mujica as a great leader, he killed douzens during his youth.

I don't really care much about his past, but more about his improvising-as-it-goes approach to government

Re: Uruguay is the Economist's Country of the Year

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Post by taejo » Thu, Dec 26, 2013, 3:03 PM UTC

jwilliams wrote: post #27

DanBC wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> while Ireland is inspirational. This Ireland? http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/eu-chief-barro... > Europe did not cause of the problems for Ireland; Ireland caused a problem for Europe, the head of the EU government said. > Following the bailout exit, the Government's bid to get backdated funding for the banking sector was dealt a spectacular blow as the head of the European Commission blamed the Irish…

The OP was probably referring to Northern Ireland, which is a devolved part of the UK (and uses GBP) - Whereas your article refers to the Republic of Ireland, which is in the Eurozone.

If OP was referring to Northern Ireland, then s/he should have said so, since "Ireland" generally refers to Ireland, and Ireland did secede, while NI did not.