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Facebook kills startups with new collaborative photo album feature

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Re: Facebook kills startups with new collaborative photo album feature

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post #19

"Apps and services like Cluster, Albumatic, Keepsy, Swirl, Flock, Kicksend, Kaptur, and dozens of others are destined for the dustbin of Internet history." I suspect most of these were headed there anyway, no offense to anyone working on them.

Don't let the door hit them on their way out. Even their names lack originality...

Re: Facebook kills startups with new collaborative photo album feature

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post #40
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who isn't doing web programming, this "app culture" is grinding my gears. I respect a fellow coder's work. I'm sure a lot of hard work went into all those applications listed there (of which, frankly, I haven't heard, because if I want to share something with my friends I upload it on my server and be done with it), but people ought to be more aware of their own smallness. You don't base your enterprise on…

Instagram began as a photosharing app when Facebook already dominated photosharing.

Did Facebook have filters? Or appeal to 16 year olds and hipsters?

Re: Facebook kills startups with new collaborative photo album feature

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post #40
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who isn't doing web programming, this "app culture" is grinding my gears. I respect a fellow coder's work. I'm sure a lot of hard work went into all those applications listed there (of which, frankly, I haven't heard, because if I want to share something with my friends I upload it on my server and be done with it), but people ought to be more aware of their own smallness. You don't base your enterprise on…

Instagram began as a photosharing app when Facebook already dominated photosharing.

However, it's not vanilla photosharing that was Instagram's killer/distinguishing feature.

Re: Facebook kills startups with new collaborative photo album feature

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post #5

Link bait-y title. > But we’re deadpooling all of ‘em, effective immediately. I really don't like the tone of many parts of this article. > Facebook is just too big to fail when it comes to normal people and photos. The same could have been said about places.

What do you mean "The same could have been said about places" - are you referring to foursquare's dominance of the places market?

For all 10 people that use Foursquare...

Re: Facebook kills startups with new collaborative photo album feature

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post #3

Probably most people don't notice or care, but Facebook introduces so many artifacts into jpegs, there's got to be room for a startup that actually doesn't compress the crap out of images.

Yes, and then, with storage getting cheaper, Facebook compresses its jpegs less, and there goes that startup down the drain...

Re: Facebook kills startups with new collaborative photo album feature

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post #30
post #3

Probably most people don't notice or care, but Facebook introduces so many artifacts into jpegs, there's got to be room for a startup that actually doesn't compress the crap out of images.

The average Facebooker doesn't know what that is and doesn't care. Just like so many people listen to music on iPhone or laptop speakers, quality seems to no longer matter.

Music on an iPhone with headphones is probably better than what 90% of the people in the eighties/nineties ever heard.

CD systems' speakers (when not Hi-Fi) have worse sound than middle of the road headphones, and cassette had like 8 bit definition (and noise, wow, flutter and other nice stuff to degrade the sound).

Re: Facebook kills startups with new collaborative photo album feature

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post #26
post #3

Probably most people don't notice or care, but Facebook introduces so many artifacts into jpegs, there's got to be room for a startup that actually doesn't compress the crap out of images.

with increasingly decent phone cameras, and everybody seemingly buying a DSLR to start a "Johns Photography" page, facebook will have to respond to this - currently their compression is horrible

>and everybody seemingly buying a DSLR to start a "Johns Photography" page

As soon as they find they don't become Robert Cappa or Steve McCurry overnight, that fad will come to pass...

Re: Facebook kills startups with new collaborative photo album feature

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I have just one question for everyone: Would you guys use something like [HashPix][1] instead, if it were made available as an alternative? If not, I'll stop working on/maintaining it and devote my time to other pursuits - preferably ones that might bring in some money eventually. PS: It is currently running on a Heroku instance because I can't afford to 'launch' it yet. :( [1]: http://hashpix.herokuapp.com

Another question is: does hashpix have the license to do what I does? When people post a picture of twitter, that doesn't necessarily mean the give the license/rights for someone to include it in his album in another service.

Re: Facebook kills startups with new collaborative photo album feature

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post #48

I have just one question for everyone: Would you guys use something like [HashPix][1] instead, if it were made available as an alternative? If not, I'll stop working on/maintaining it and devote my time to other pursuits - preferably ones that might bring in some money eventually. PS: It is currently running on a Heroku instance because I can't afford to 'launch' it yet. :( [1]: http://hashpix.herokuapp.com

Another question is: does hashpix have the license to do what I does? When people post a picture of twitter, that doesn't necessarily mean the give the license/rights for someone to include it in his album in another service.

Very interesting question. :)

To be completely honest, I haven't really thought about that. I haven't really really looked into that either.

However, I am basing this attempt on the belief that, if Twitter, TwitPic and Instagram can 'show' me your photos when I search for a particular hashtag, it automatically implies that each of them have acquired the redistribution rights.

At no point in the process am I claiming that I own these photos; in fact, all the photos link back to their original places. I'm merely collating symbolic links to them. In a sense, I'm (sort of) indexing them just the way a search engine would.

Am I making sense or am I being escapist with my answers here? Do let me know. I'd like to believe I am not breaking any laws or infringing any copyrights but IANAL, so I'm not really sure. :)

Thanks for the insightful question. You made me realize something that I had completely missed in my enthusiasm to code. :)

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