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Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong

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Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong

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There are no legal niceties here. This is about raw military power (Russia's) and spheres of influence (again, Russia's).

What's really sad is that this guy is going to learn really fast that he's now in a sphere where the rules simply don't apply. He's put himself in play and he's going to learn very quickly that he has few friends where a nation considers the information in his brain essential to their national security. http://www.amazon.com/The-Flight-Falcon-Manhunt-Americas/dp/... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Falcon_and_the_Sno…

Yeah, as seen from far away, Latin America is just CIA's backyard, and as far as I know they have no restrain there.

Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong

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Exactly how would this work? WikiArmy?

Sure. A modern underground railroad if thats what it takes.

Could be an interesting poll: Would you secretly house Snowden if he knocked on your door tomorrow?

Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong

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I would think the plane is safe and perhaps the plane could be considered as territory of the nation of the diplomat therefore the diplomat could offer him asylum on the plane if need be, but I may be wrong about the latter.

Nope: diplomatic immunity extends only to diplomats and their immediate families. As Snowden is neither, and cannot be nominated as one without the host country's approval, there's nothing stopping Russia or Cuba from detaining Snowden if they wanted to, no matter how many Elbonian diplomats he's travelling with. (Source: I used to have diplomatic immunity.)

I was under the impression that they were flying on a privately owned plane. That does not seem to be the case, but it may be on their next leg of the journey.

I do not have direct knowledge, but I would think that if the plane is of the diplomat, then the whole plane could be considered to be territory of the nation of the diplomat, therefore the diplomat could offer him asylum while on the plane.

If I wasn't clear, I was not speaking about offering him diplomatic immunity, but rather the plane being considered as territory of the nation of the diplomat.

Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong

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Why is this trip of Snowden made into a media event? The Aeroflot flight number was public! Is this to counter a secret rendition attempt? Did we wake-up in a world with 007 stuff happening to real computer nerds, not just high-paid actors?

>The Aeroflot flight number was public url?

Well, to be fair, if you say, he's flying from X to Y, depending on the conditions there's only one (or a couple of) possible answer

Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong

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Sure. A modern underground railroad if thats what it takes.

Could be an interesting poll: Would you secretly house Snowden if he knocked on your door tomorrow?

Would it be illegal to house Snowden for, let's say 24 hours, if you don't live in the US?

Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong

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Why is this trip of Snowden made into a media event? The Aeroflot flight number was public! Is this to counter a secret rendition attempt? Did we wake-up in a world with 007 stuff happening to real computer nerds, not just high-paid actors?

The entire Snowden hoax is a media event, a PR campaign to cover up the fact that he spied on the US for foreign powers. It's the most effective case of spin and damage control that I've ever seen.

Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong

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"What is being done to Mr Snowden and to Mr Julian Assange - for making or facilitating disclosures in the public interest - is an assault against the people."

What exactly is being "done" to Julian Assange? The only reason he's stuck in the embassy is because of rape accusations.

Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong

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Playing devil's advocate here, and watched a bunch of spy movies...

What if Snowden is still a CIA agent (he was a CIA agent for years before NSA) and this is actually a snowjob/whitewash by the government to deflect attention or essentially control the message about news they knew would be released (diffusing that/controlling that message) and black-ops about China, Russia, Cuba + Venezuela how they treat/process possible 'traitors' or spies?

I hope that is not the case and he is sincere, it would be great if the US could just pardon him and address our Constitutional issues. But if they pardon him doesn't the above seem like an outside possibility?

Or am I reading too much Tom Clancy and watching too many spy movies?

It does seem most whistleblowers are swept under the rug but here you have one that is garnering lots of news and attracting lots of attention across multiple weeks/weekends to things that were previously labeled 'conspiracy' or only seen in movies (yet have been in the news quietly before, since 9/11). Now it is international news everywhere. He is almost the perfect leaker, making more waves than all combined.

Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong

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Could be an interesting poll: Would you secretly house Snowden if he knocked on your door tomorrow?

Would it be illegal to house Snowden for, let's say 24 hours, if you don't live in the US?

Why would it be? It's not my business to report anything to anyone, as long as he does not brag about criminal activities all too open ...
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