Hmm. Either they're calling Venezuela a "democratic nation", which seems a bit of a stretch, or Snowden's actually heading somewhere other than the media is reporting. I'm hoping for option B.
Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong
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Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong
#12Hmm. Either they're calling Venezuela a "democratic nation", which seems a bit of a stretch, or Snowden's actually heading somewhere other than the media is reporting. I'm hoping for option B.
Venezuela is one of the most democratic countries in the world?
All of their last elections have been externally ratified as being fair:
http://www.cartercenter.org/news/pr/hugo-chavez-030513.html
http://www.cartercenter.org/countries/venezuela-peace-electi...
Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
>The Aeroflot flight number was public url?
http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1267261/snowden-l...
Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong
#14How does diplomatic immunity work if you are in the entourage of an diplomat?
I would think the plane is safe and perhaps the plane could be considered as territory of the nation of the diplomat therefore the diplomat could offer him asylum on the plane if need be, but I may be wrong about the latter.
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#16Hmm. Either they're calling Venezuela a "democratic nation", which seems a bit of a stretch, or Snowden's actually heading somewhere other than the media is reporting. I'm hoping for option B.
Venezuela is one of the most democratic countries in the world? All of their last elections have been externally ratified as being fair: http://www.cartercenter.org/news/pr/hugo-chavez-030513.html http://www.cartercenter.org/countries/venezuela-peace-electi...
Are you serious? Chavez spent his entire period in office warping the machinery of the state in his favor, and his successor is refusing to investigate some pretty serious allegations of fraud for the last one.
http://www.economist.com/news/americas/21579458-real-questio...
Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong
#17Looks like he walked right through a legal loop hole (for now).
There are no legal niceties here. This is about raw military power (Russia's) and spheres of influence (again, Russia's).
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#18How does diplomatic immunity work if you are in the entourage of an diplomat?
I would think the plane is safe and perhaps the plane could be considered as territory of the nation of the diplomat therefore the diplomat could offer him asylum on the plane if need be, but I may be wrong about the latter.
Nope: diplomatic immunity extends only to diplomats and their immediate families. As Snowden is neither, and cannot be nominated as one without the host country's approval, there's nothing stopping Russia or Cuba from detaining Snowden if they wanted to, no matter how many Elbonian diplomats he's travelling with.
(Source: I used to have diplomatic immunity.)
Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong
#19Hmm. Either they're calling Venezuela a "democratic nation", which seems a bit of a stretch, or Snowden's actually heading somewhere other than the media is reporting. I'm hoping for option B.
Venezuela is one of the most democratic countries in the world? All of their last elections have been externally ratified as being fair: http://www.cartercenter.org/news/pr/hugo-chavez-030513.html http://www.cartercenter.org/countries/venezuela-peace-electi...
Interesting that no report has yet been filed for the 2013 election monitoring even two months later, so I don't think we can yet say all of their last elections have been ratified.
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#20I wonder if this will see Wikileaks become a sort of worldwide whistleblower protection agency. Seeing as most countries don't exactly have the best whistleblower protection programs.