Did she want them to be fired ? Cracking a fallus joke might be immature but then putting such random photos on twitter is also equally immature. However whoever fired those who cracked the joke seem to be at fault here.
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#42"Anyone can post a photo and get you fired." No, the photo did not get you fired, your employer's questionable policies got you fired. If indeed a phallus joke between two persons in a private conversation is not objectionable, why was this person fired? As I see it here, the more and more "transparent" our private lives become with cell phone cameras and always-on video glasses, the more protection employees need fr…
So... while I'm almost reluctant to even know because it feeds into a mob mentality we've already seen, what was the company that did the actual firing?
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#43Couple pieces to this. First – the fact that this guy's employer made a kneejerk reaction is no one's fault but the employer. Next – let's talk about this red herring of "sexism." Making a phallus joke might be sexist depending on context. Or it might not be. Sexism is not at issue here. The individual in question concedes that they did, in fact, make the joke. From PyCon's code of conduct: "All communication should…
I don't think anyone takes issue with talking to the PyCon organizers and even having them removed from the conference.
The employer made a mistake for sure, but so did your friend. Skewering someone in public on the Internet like that is immature and irresponsible. There are a million better ways she could have dealt with this.
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#44I sure trust an anonymous pastebin from a throwaway account to make accusations about Adria's 'unfound accusations'.
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#46Again I would like to point out that to slander somebody, you must tell lies about them. Nobody is claiming that Adria is lying, even the person she's talking about.
She is clearly not slandering anyone.
(Please note: this does not mean that I'm taking a position in any way on this issue)
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#47I want to make a point that may or may not be applicable to this situation.
Talking about sex is not inherently sexist. Making jokes about sex is not inherently sexist.
It's inappropriate in a large number of places, but that doesn't make it sexist.
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#48> the "forking" reference turned out to be a fabrication. > She never exchanged a word with the men. Anyone got a source for those claims? I thought her actions were undefendable the way she described them, but this would make it a whole different beast. And thanks to a lack of sources at the pastebin I don't know if that's true or made up (and I hadn't seen those mentioned anywhere so far).
In the other YC thread the guy who got fired said he and his coworkers were using 'fork' as something they're exciting about forking on GitHub. The woman who posted their picture essentially inferred that they meant something sexual about that.
As for the last point I am pretty sure she herself admitted that she wasn't in the mood to argue with anyone so she just took the picture instead of confronting them about their comments.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
and there goes the freedom of speech
Freedom of speech (in the United States, according to the Constitution and historical rulings of the Supreme Court) is freedom from government intervention in political and artistic speech, not permission to make lewd jokes and be free of private or personal consequences.
One country doesn't define freedom of speech.
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#50Her own phallus joke, as mentioned in the pastie, which she made on Twitter, a much more public venue:
https://twitter.com/adriarichards/status/312265091791847425
Incredibly hypocritical on her part.