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The hallucinogenic mushroom that contains no known psychedelic

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Re: The hallucinogenic mushroom that contains no known psychedelic

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Obviously they're making an air chrysalis.

A 1Q86 reference, on HN? I never thought I'd see the day.

(for anyone else wondering, it's a book, 1Q84 by Haruki Murakami, from 2009-2010)

Re: The hallucinogenic mushroom that contains no known psychedelic

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"seeing little people" is such a hyper specific visual effect, it begs questions. Since I am well aware how my mind fills in gaps in the visual field with attempts to map what I would expect or want to see (try holding your head rigidly ahead and look with a steady gaze at a near field pattern like floor tiles to experience your brain filling in the missing pieces in the field) I ask: what could this actually be? For…

One wonders how it would affect someone who has been blind from birth: would they hear little people? Would their optic system be activated by the unknown compounds? etc.

There ought to be funding for a study like this.

Re: The hallucinogenic mushroom that contains no known psychedelic

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Interesting. I told the specialist what I'd seen, they said "not blood cells" but I'm open to re-consideration. I got a pretty complete ocular examination both times, the iris dilation and "I must be a vampire I cannot handle sunlight" is a joy.

Floaters? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floater

No, quite different. Floaters look like paramecium in my visual field, or hairs floating in fluid (that kind of corona around an object) Maybe there is a sub class of floater which is like PVD but .. to me at least this was qualitatively different.

I suppose the crap left over from a PVD incident would be a sub-class of "floater" but in quality, its nothing like the floaters I get "all the time" as normal life, before and after PVD.

The one upside of PVD is I am told your chances of a retinal tear are reduced, if you have a "clean" PVD.

Re: The hallucinogenic mushroom that contains no known psychedelic

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"seeing little people" is such a hyper specific visual effect, it begs questions. Since I am well aware how my mind fills in gaps in the visual field with attempts to map what I would expect or want to see (try holding your head rigidly ahead and look with a steady gaze at a near field pattern like floor tiles to experience your brain filling in the missing pieces in the field) I ask: what could this actually be? For…

> For instance, when I get (got: my blood pressure is treated) migraine visual effects, I would say "lightning bolt" but thats just a textual analogue/simile. What I actually saw was more complex than that: lightning is white. My effect was polychrome.

What you describe seems to refer to scintillating scotoma, which appears to be well known and documented: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scintillating_scotoma

I personally have my doubts whether it has to do with blood pressure (i had it while on medication and normal blood pressure), or that it's generated by the brain, but lack the time/motivation/skill to research this further.

Re: The hallucinogenic mushroom that contains no known psychedelic

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"seeing little people" is such a hyper specific visual effect, it begs questions. Since I am well aware how my mind fills in gaps in the visual field with attempts to map what I would expect or want to see (try holding your head rigidly ahead and look with a steady gaze at a near field pattern like floor tiles to experience your brain filling in the missing pieces in the field) I ask: what could this actually be? For…

> For instance, when I get (got: my blood pressure is treated) migraine visual effects, I would say "lightning bolt" but thats just a textual analogue/simile. What I actually saw was more complex than that: lightning is white. My effect was polychrome. What you describe seems to refer to scintillating scotoma, which appears to be well known and documented: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scintillating_scotoma I persona…

If anything I said implied this was a novel, new phenomena, I withdraw that implication completely. I was attempting to discuss how I subjectively experience and would describe it, and the effects on documentation of that description, not that I saw any perceptual effect nobody else saw.

Re: The hallucinogenic mushroom that contains no known psychedelic

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The wild part isn't just that the compound is unknown, it's how specific the hallucination is. 96% of people see tiny figures, and there's a third-century Chinese text describing the same mushroom letting you "see a little person." That kind of consistency across centuries feels less like a random trip and more like it's reliably tripping some existing brain circuit. Worth noting micropsia ("Alice in Wonderland syndr…

When I was very young (around 3 or 4) I woke up in the middle of the night and went downstairs to climb into my parents' bed. After some time, I could see a small-scale but very extensive science fiction space base on top of the bed covers, as if the bed covers were the surface of a moon or planet. It was populated, and in motion - rockets launching from gantries as I watched, etc. I know it wasn't a dream, because m…

Same thing here. About 8, Mickey Mouse, 2D, 3-4" high, dancing on the back wall of a tent (in the middle of the forest). Have never had another hallucination--that I know of.

Re: The hallucinogenic mushroom that contains no known psychedelic

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously they're making an air chrysalis.

A 1Q86 reference, on HN? I never thought I'd see the day.

Every time this topic comes up and the comments are full of discussions about the little people I think of it. I do wonder if Murakami was inspired in any way by similar discussions.
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