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The hallucinogenic mushroom that contains no known psychedelic

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Re: The hallucinogenic mushroom that contains no known psychedelic

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maybe it's not a hallucination; maybe the minish have simply made it their mission to troll people who eat their favorite mushroom

Maybe they're all over the place and have a technology that prevents us from seeing them, and the mushroom just interferes with that tech.

Re: The hallucinogenic mushroom that contains no known psychedelic

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"seeing little people" is such a hyper specific visual effect, it begs questions. Since I am well aware how my mind fills in gaps in the visual field with attempts to map what I would expect or want to see (try holding your head rigidly ahead and look with a steady gaze at a near field pattern like floor tiles to experience your brain filling in the missing pieces in the field) I ask: what could this actually be? For…

Reconsider the blood cell visualization thing. I've had bilateral PVD. Each was accompanied by an initial few minutes of seeing a few dozen small dark spots that had lighter grey centers. Most visible when I looked at the sky. They all disappeared after a few minutes. I think these were RBCs from minimal retinal blood vessel tearing at the PVD events. Human RBCs are ~6µm - 8µm diameter. Human retinal light sensing ce…

Interesting. I told the specialist what I'd seen, they said "not blood cells" but I'm open to re-consideration. I got a pretty complete ocular examination both times, the iris dilation and "I must be a vampire I cannot handle sunlight" is a joy.

Re: The hallucinogenic mushroom that contains no known psychedelic

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post #4

"seeing little people" is such a hyper specific visual effect, it begs questions. Since I am well aware how my mind fills in gaps in the visual field with attempts to map what I would expect or want to see (try holding your head rigidly ahead and look with a steady gaze at a near field pattern like floor tiles to experience your brain filling in the missing pieces in the field) I ask: what could this actually be? For…

> Since I am well aware how my mind fills in gaps in the visual field with attempts to map what I would expect or want to see

Your mind also creates the visual field. It is not real even though it is usually quite consistent. Brain fills the gaps after it has filled all the rest.

Just a handy visualization of a world that is likely to be a lot more chaotic.

Re: The hallucinogenic mushroom that contains no known psychedelic

#35

maybe it's not a hallucination; maybe the minish have simply made it their mission to troll people who eat their favorite mushroom

Maybe they're all over the place and have a technology that prevents us from seeing them, and the mushroom just interferes with that tech.

There is no Antimemetics Division…

Re: The hallucinogenic mushroom that contains no known psychedelic

#36

The wild part isn't just that the compound is unknown, it's how specific the hallucination is. 96% of people see tiny figures, and there's a third-century Chinese text describing the same mushroom letting you "see a little person." That kind of consistency across centuries feels less like a random trip and more like it's reliably tripping some existing brain circuit. Worth noting micropsia ("Alice in Wonderland syndr…

When I was very young (around 3 or 4) I woke up in the middle of the night and went downstairs to climb into my parents' bed.

After some time, I could see a small-scale but very extensive science fiction space base on top of the bed covers, as if the bed covers were the surface of a moon or planet.

It was populated, and in motion - rockets launching from gantries as I watched, etc. I know it wasn't a dream, because my parents remember me describing it to them as it happened.

I've never experienced anything like that again, and never heard of anything like it until reading about these mushrooms last year.

It definitely seems like an odd quirk of the brain that it apparently has a ”1990s god video game" (e.g. Populous) visualization mode.

There's some neat sci fi novel potential there, though, like it being a remnant of some kind of distant ancestor with a hive mind that could synthesize the visual input of multiple members into a disembodied third-person camera point of view.

Re: The hallucinogenic mushroom that contains no known psychedelic

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reconsider the blood cell visualization thing. I've had bilateral PVD. Each was accompanied by an initial few minutes of seeing a few dozen small dark spots that had lighter grey centers. Most visible when I looked at the sky. They all disappeared after a few minutes. I think these were RBCs from minimal retinal blood vessel tearing at the PVD events. Human RBCs are ~6µm - 8µm diameter. Human retinal light sensing ce…

Interesting. I told the specialist what I'd seen, they said "not blood cells" but I'm open to re-consideration. I got a pretty complete ocular examination both times, the iris dilation and "I must be a vampire I cannot handle sunlight" is a joy.

Floaters? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floater

Re: The hallucinogenic mushroom that contains no known psychedelic

#39
post #27

Every time I read about this I find myself asking what the little people are doing, and articles never answer it.

It does? “ Patients describe colourful figures only a few centimetres tall, marching, dancing and climbing over the furniture.”

Tbf I would also want to know more: Like to what end are they moving around? And what do they look like exactly? Like people you know from your life? Wearing ordinary outfits? Do they communicate amongst themselves, like little groups of people? Do they gesticulate? And when you see them, can you like, focus on a particular one and follow him around? Etc etc...

Re: The hallucinogenic mushroom that contains no known psychedelic

#40

Every time I read about this I find myself asking what the little people are doing, and articles never answer it.

Obviously they're making an air chrysalis.

A 1Q86 reference, on HN? I never thought I'd see the day.
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