Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Slightly reducing the sloppiness of AI generated front end

envs.net

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

41–50 of 147 posts

Re: Slightly reducing the sloppiness of AI generated front end

#41

Post by slopinthebag »

Retr0id wrote: post #3
abraxas wrote: post #2

I think this says more about "modern" UI than it does about AI slop. The awfulness of all this comes mostly from the fact that widgets no longer have consistent shape, theme or interaction behaviour ever since desktop paridigms and original Xerox/Parc research were abandoned in favour of web slop. So yeah, this is much more Web Slop than AI Slop. AI is just amplifying it.

Continuing in that vein, it'd be interesting to see a Win98 version. Edit: https://retr0.id/stuff/deslop/

Unironically the best one out of the lot. Man, we digressed so far from where we were...

Re: Slightly reducing the sloppiness of AI generated front end

#42

Post by kvasserman »

I thought that AI would at least be good at 2 things: writing (text) and doing UI. It's not good at either. Text it generated reads like slop and UI it creates looks like slop. The way I approach it now is this: for text, I have to write it myself and only use AI to check grammar and catch weirdly phrased passages. For UI, it's like with the rest of the code. You have to stay on the top of it and keep demanding changes to match your vision/architecture/taste until it gets it close to what you want. In both cases, not knowing what "good" looks like is a real problem, because AI definitely has no idea.

Re: Slightly reducing the sloppiness of AI generated front end

#43

Post by dominotw »

crazysim wrote: post #23
kingkongjaffa wrote: post #14

Does anyone have good examples of well designed web applications - not landing pages or peoples tech blogs, which are often listed here on HN. But like actual applications that do a complex task with the user using it as a tool.

https://www.mcmaster.com/ has a reputation

coulve been a pdf file

Re: Slightly reducing the sloppiness of AI generated front end

#45

Post by thewebguyd »

Retr0id wrote: post #3
abraxas wrote: post #2

I think this says more about "modern" UI than it does about AI slop. The awfulness of all this comes mostly from the fact that widgets no longer have consistent shape, theme or interaction behaviour ever since desktop paridigms and original Xerox/Parc research were abandoned in favour of web slop. So yeah, this is much more Web Slop than AI Slop. AI is just amplifying it.

Continuing in that vein, it'd be interesting to see a Win98 version. Edit: https://retr0.id/stuff/deslop/

Wow, that's immediately so much better than the others to the point its kind of sad.

We've really went behind in terms of UX as an industry.

Re: Slightly reducing the sloppiness of AI generated front end

#46

Post by smnplk »

properbrew wrote: post #31
mft_ wrote: post #19

Can you quantify what it is you don’t like? Like, to my eyes ‘original’ is fine - and it’s very similar to ‘QT’ expect with rounded corners and brighter colours.

I find it such a hard thing to quantify, I know it's not helpful but you can just feel the slop seep through. I'm not sure if it's because I've iterated through so many sites that LLMs have produced that "slop" is instantly recognisable and it just feels soulless. Not like web pages ever had a soul, but it's not there on the generic LLM generated sites.

Imagine you get this original version from a frontend guy pre AI , would you still see slop seep through ?

Re: Slightly reducing the sloppiness of AI generated front end

#47

Post by mynameisvlad »

dewey wrote: post #40
bronlund wrote: post #34

I donno. They all look ugly. When making small tools for myself, I just tell it to use Svelte and then wrap it up using Tauri - no graphical cues whatsoever. And they usually comes out pretty good by my taste.

That's just the "original" they mentioned here without a prompt ( https://envs.net/~volpe/projects/ai-design.html ) but these ofen are easily identified as AI generated. I don't think it's too bad but it's definitely a tell.

Is that a problem?

Re: Slightly reducing the sloppiness of AI generated front end

#48

Post by LordDragonfang »

On the matter of being without taste -- which I assume the author is using as a self-derogatory descriptor for not having skill in UI design -- the styling of links on this page could use some change. The link color is so close to the body color that I initially thought there weren't any links, and scrolled trying to find the examples. You can't both remove the underline and have such a low contrast font color, it's bad UX.

(For the record, even though I don't mind qt, I think this particular example still comes across as slop because of the overuse of gradients on buttons and headings. In general, a lot of these suffer from overuse of gradients, but OP appears to just be averse to border-radius)

Re: Slightly reducing the sloppiness of AI generated front end

#50

Post by Xotic007 »

Makes sense. Slop is basically what you get when there's nothing specific to copy and so the AI it just averages every web style together. Qt works because there's really only one way Qt looks.Modern web has a million versions of everything so you average all that and get slop.
Post reply on HN