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ICE Awards $25M Iris-Scanning Contract to Bi2 Technologies

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Re: ICE Awards $25M Iris-Scanning Contract to Bi2 Technologies

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This is their global headquarters. Yes, that appears to be the whole thing. https://www.google.com/maps/place/488+State+Rd+%231,+Plymout...

Reminds me of this ICE contract for billion dollar detention facilities … to some random unknown company registered to a single family home with no working phone number or website https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/10/acquisition-log... This administration has had mass corruption and grift, taking from taxpayers and handing it to friends and family of Trump

It's nothing new, the Pentagon has failed 8 audits in a row. In just one year (2022), $220 Billion dollars of their spending were totally unaccounted for.

Re: ICE Awards $25M Iris-Scanning Contract to Bi2 Technologies

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I really don’t understand how so many people can support this admin. It’s not that I ideologically disagree with them, but they are so corrupt that they appear incompetent. They actually aren’t incompetent, they just don’t care about what is important to almost everyone else. If you, for example, don’t care about public safety or accountability it turns out you can make a lot of money.

A lot of us are coming to terms with "tier-1" venture firms like a16z tolerating corruption and ethics violations to support financial deregulation (crypto, prediction markets) and AI deregulation Polymarket is even running ragebait ads[1] about Trump's corruption, while his son (profiting from the corruption) sits on the board The word you are looking for is "greed", and it is ripping apart the moral fabric of this…

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Re: ICE Awards $25M Iris-Scanning Contract to Bi2 Technologies

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You are wildly underestimating the difficulty of building anew. Fortunately, you are also overestimating the impossibility of coming back from organizational trauma.

You may be underestimating the historical significance of the moment a critical percentage of a population loses faith in its institutions.

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Re: ICE Awards $25M Iris-Scanning Contract to Bi2 Technologies

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Boggles my mind you'd even imagine a positive scenario here. Let the states choose? This is not only how we kept slavery going by letting states drive, but it also caused a civic war when we had no federal coordination. Nay, we must reform and reclaim a just federal government. Letting states drive themselves will turn the country into extreme violence.

The states should be free to choose their own course. Citizens should be allowed to move freely between them. May the best governance win.

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Re: ICE Awards $25M Iris-Scanning Contract to Bi2 Technologies

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> There is a vast, hugely funded, and incredibly adept propaganda machine aimed at about half the country. There are propaganda machines directed at everyone. > And no, I don’t think “my side” would be immune to a similar machine speaking the language we like to hear, but I just think that hasn’t happened (yet) It seems incredibly naive to believe that propaganda in this age isn't utilised by all "sides". My base ass…

I didn't say "my side" doesn't utilize propaganda, I said there isn't a vast, hugely funded, and incredibly adept propaganda machine aimed at my side.

> ...aimed at my side.

that's how you know it's successful.

Re: ICE Awards $25M Iris-Scanning Contract to Bi2 Technologies

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> The award describes the purchase as covering iris biometric recognition technology and access to a biometric information system "to allow ICE agents to quickly authenticate the identity of subjects during field operations." Note that absent reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime, law enforcement in the US cannot legally forcibly identify people. This is federal shock troops (masked and unidentified, at that) g…

> Note that absent reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime, law enforcement in the US cannot legally forcibly identify people. Could you cite a source for this? If a law enforcement officer personally recognizes someone's face, I don't believe that it's illegal for them to know who the person is. If a law enforcement officer turns to their non-cop buddy and asks "do you know this person?" and their buddy says "ye…

> They just cannot search you

If instead of looking up your name in a name list, I look up your face in a face list, ain’t that searching?

I feel like what you’re ultimately asking hinges on when, legally, a photo turns into biometrics.

Re: ICE Awards $25M Iris-Scanning Contract to Bi2 Technologies

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> Note that absent reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime, law enforcement in the US cannot legally forcibly identify people. Could you cite a source for this? If a law enforcement officer personally recognizes someone's face, I don't believe that it's illegal for them to know who the person is. If a law enforcement officer turns to their non-cop buddy and asks "do you know this person?" and their buddy says "ye…

> They just cannot search you If instead of looking up your name in a name list, I look up your face in a face list, ain’t that searching? I feel like what you’re ultimately asking hinges on when, legally, a photo turns into biometrics.

No, looking up your face in a list of faces is searching FOR you, not searching you.

Searching you means taking an inventory of the items on your person. It does not mean looking at you. In some cases, imaging you can be a "search" even where there is no physical contact (for example: a millimeter-wave scanner), but a photograph in a public place has never qualified as a "search" in the USA.

I understand your feelings, but so far as I know things like gait recognition, facial recognition, or even an iris scan derived from an ordinary photograph have never qualified as a "search" under U.S. law. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong on this: it's quite difficult to prove something has _not_ happened.

I think the legal line is not when it "becomes biometrics" or becomes identification. The legal line is when you are revealing a private property about an individual (for example, their blood type, or the contents of their pockets). Nothing visible to the naked eye in public is considered private, so nothing that derives identity from that public information is a "search".

As a nice easy example... an officer smelling alchohol on the breath of a person in the course of a conversation is not a "search". An officer compelling that same person to breathe into a breathalyzer machine is. Applying the same standard to faces, you cannot make an individual put their eye to a scanner without reasonable suspicion, but if you can get a biometric scan from the invidual as they happen to walk about their day, doing that isn't searching them...

Re: ICE Awards $25M Iris-Scanning Contract to Bi2 Technologies

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I really don’t understand how so many people can support this admin. It’s not that I ideologically disagree with them, but they are so corrupt that they appear incompetent. They actually aren’t incompetent, they just don’t care about what is important to almost everyone else. If you, for example, don’t care about public safety or accountability it turns out you can make a lot of money.

Like in every dictorship, they succeed because enough people rather profit from administration, rather than fighting with their moral and join the resistance movements, with all implications to their personal life.

Re: ICE Awards $25M Iris-Scanning Contract to Bi2 Technologies

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I really don’t understand how so many people can support this admin. It’s not that I ideologically disagree with them, but they are so corrupt that they appear incompetent. They actually aren’t incompetent, they just don’t care about what is important to almost everyone else. If you, for example, don’t care about public safety or accountability it turns out you can make a lot of money.

Like in every dictorship, they succeed because enough people rather profit from administration, rather than fighting with their moral and join the resistance movements, with all implications to their personal life.

similar to the Google-Facebook surveillance Capitalism that funded so many D-pols?

.. before this devolves into simple polarity jab posts.. taxation-based Big Gov seems very eager to embrace and extend constant tracking of location via devices.. social attribution profiles are maybe less so, maybe?

hard to see the positives in the new social dynamics, from either base in the US, from this chair

Re: ICE Awards $25M Iris-Scanning Contract to Bi2 Technologies

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Like in every dictorship, they succeed because enough people rather profit from administration, rather than fighting with their moral and join the resistance movements, with all implications to their personal life.

similar to the Google-Facebook surveillance Capitalism that funded so many D-pols? .. before this devolves into simple polarity jab posts.. taxation-based Big Gov seems very eager to embrace and extend constant tracking of location via devices.. social attribution profiles are maybe less so, maybe? hard to see the positives in the new social dynamics, from either base in the US, from this chair

History has proven how capitalism is eager to work with such kind of governments.

Shareholders tend to not have morals as long as money keeps pumping into their bank accounts.

They are responsible for much of the sad state of affairs across the planet, now they even offer gold statuses back home, for little favours.

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