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Re: ICE Awards $25M Iris-Scanning Contract to Bi2 Technologies

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Post by DesaiAshu »

kenjackson wrote: post #15

I really don’t understand how so many people can support this admin. It’s not that I ideologically disagree with them, but they are so corrupt that they appear incompetent. They actually aren’t incompetent, they just don’t care about what is important to almost everyone else. If you, for example, don’t care about public safety or accountability it turns out you can make a lot of money.

A lot of us are coming to terms with "tier-1" venture firms like a16z tolerating corruption and ethics violations to support financial deregulation (crypto, prediction markets) and AI deregulation

Polymarket is even running ragebait ads[1] about Trump's corruption, while his son (profiting from the corruption) sits on the board

The word you are looking for is "greed", and it is ripping apart the moral fabric of this country

[1] https://www.instagram.com/p/DYmu4RJnFrF/?img_index=11

Re: ICE Awards $25M Iris-Scanning Contract to Bi2 Technologies

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Post by michaelmrose »

kenjackson wrote: post #15

I really don’t understand how so many people can support this admin. It’s not that I ideologically disagree with them, but they are so corrupt that they appear incompetent. They actually aren’t incompetent, they just don’t care about what is important to almost everyone else. If you, for example, don’t care about public safety or accountability it turns out you can make a lot of money.

How can you idealogically agree with them especially when the only idealogy they have is greed and bigotry.

Re: ICE Awards $25M Iris-Scanning Contract to Bi2 Technologies

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Post by alecthomas »

doctoboggan wrote: post #29
kenjackson wrote: post #15

I really don’t understand how so many people can support this admin. It’s not that I ideologically disagree with them, but they are so corrupt that they appear incompetent. They actually aren’t incompetent, they just don’t care about what is important to almost everyone else. If you, for example, don’t care about public safety or accountability it turns out you can make a lot of money.

There is a vast, hugely funded, and incredibly adept propaganda machine aimed at about half the country. They use all channels available to them, as well as much of the machinery that surveillance capitalism has built to paint a picture that is very different from reality. Many people’s access to virtually all their information is mediated through this propaganda machine. It’s frankly incredible that there are even a…

> There is a vast, hugely funded, and incredibly adept propaganda machine aimed at about half the country.

There are propaganda machines directed at everyone.

> And no, I don’t think “my side” would be immune to a similar machine speaking the language we like to hear, but I just think that hasn’t happened (yet)

It seems incredibly naive to believe that propaganda in this age isn't utilised by all "sides". My base assumption for any information, particularly from mainstream media, is that it's biased one way or the other.

Re: ICE Awards $25M Iris-Scanning Contract to Bi2 Technologies

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Post by simoncion »

Borealid wrote: post #19
sneak wrote: post #10

> The award describes the purchase as covering iris biometric recognition technology and access to a biometric information system "to allow ICE agents to quickly authenticate the identity of subjects during field operations." Note that absent reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime, law enforcement in the US cannot legally forcibly identify people. This is federal shock troops (masked and unidentified, at that) g…

> Note that absent reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime, law enforcement in the US cannot legally forcibly identify people. Could you cite a source for this? If a law enforcement officer personally recognizes someone's face, I don't believe that it's illegal for them to know who the person is. If a law enforcement officer turns to their non-cop buddy and asks "do you know this person?" and their buddy says "ye…

> Could you cite a source for this?

Many states (something like half) in the US don't require people to respond to police requests to identify themselves.

While the courts might end up claiming that being grabbed by several cops and having an iris scanner forced onto one's face is "not testimonial" and therefor not covered by existing laws that permit one to not have to identify oneself, I would argue that such an outcome is -heh- rules lawyering and intensely unjust. IMNSHO the justice system should actively avoid producing unjust outcomes.

Re: ICE Awards $25M Iris-Scanning Contract to Bi2 Technologies

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Post by SilverElfin »

dweekly wrote: post #3

This is their global headquarters. Yes, that appears to be the whole thing. https://www.google.com/maps/place/488+State+Rd+%231,+Plymout...

Reminds me of this ICE contract for billion dollar detention facilities … to some random unknown company registered to a single family home with no working phone number or website

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/10/acquisition-log...

This administration has had mass corruption and grift, taking from taxpayers and handing it to friends and family of Trump

Re: ICE Awards $25M Iris-Scanning Contract to Bi2 Technologies

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Post by aprilthird2021 »

doctoboggan wrote: post #29
kenjackson wrote: post #15

I really don’t understand how so many people can support this admin. It’s not that I ideologically disagree with them, but they are so corrupt that they appear incompetent. They actually aren’t incompetent, they just don’t care about what is important to almost everyone else. If you, for example, don’t care about public safety or accountability it turns out you can make a lot of money.

There is a vast, hugely funded, and incredibly adept propaganda machine aimed at about half the country. They use all channels available to them, as well as much of the machinery that surveillance capitalism has built to paint a picture that is very different from reality. Many people’s access to virtually all their information is mediated through this propaganda machine. It’s frankly incredible that there are even a…

It's hard to buy that this is the sole reason. All the facts are out there and were out there before the election. The number one issue people cited in election polls was the economy. And Trump had a well stated economic policy that decades of knowledge of economics has shown us is a bad idea.

Ultimately voters run the US. It's our responsibility to do the research and make an informed decision. Propaganda has existed forever. You can't ban all propaganda, so it's hard for me to not still point the finger at the people who voted for this

Re: ICE Awards $25M Iris-Scanning Contract to Bi2 Technologies

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Post by michaelmrose »

smallmancontrov wrote: post #25
kenjackson wrote: post #15

I really don’t understand how so many people can support this admin. It’s not that I ideologically disagree with them, but they are so corrupt that they appear incompetent. They actually aren’t incompetent, they just don’t care about what is important to almost everyone else. If you, for example, don’t care about public safety or accountability it turns out you can make a lot of money.

Information bubbles are wicked. I'm visiting family over the long weekend and they are all convinced that Trump is a selfless holy crusader against fraud who is finding so much Democrat fraud that he deserves a little side action :|

That's not just an information bubble it's stupidity sometimes but not always with a side order of racism.

The entire notion of somehow deserving to be corrupt as well is an indication of not just being unethical but literally not understanding what ethics looks like.

We have to come to terms with the idea that half of America is neither intelligent nor good people.

Re: ICE Awards $25M Iris-Scanning Contract to Bi2 Technologies

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Post by doctoboggan »

alecthomas wrote: post #33
doctoboggan wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a vast, hugely funded, and incredibly adept propaganda machine aimed at about half the country. They use all channels available to them, as well as much of the machinery that surveillance capitalism has built to paint a picture that is very different from reality. Many people’s access to virtually all their information is mediated through this propaganda machine. It’s frankly incredible that there are even a…

> There is a vast, hugely funded, and incredibly adept propaganda machine aimed at about half the country. There are propaganda machines directed at everyone. > And no, I don’t think “my side” would be immune to a similar machine speaking the language we like to hear, but I just think that hasn’t happened (yet) It seems incredibly naive to believe that propaganda in this age isn't utilised by all "sides". My base ass…

I didn't say "my side" doesn't utilize propaganda, I said there isn't a vast, hugely funded, and incredibly adept propaganda machine aimed at my side.

Re: ICE Awards $25M Iris-Scanning Contract to Bi2 Technologies

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Post by esseph »

jadbox wrote: post #17
GolfPopper wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don’t know how the US charts a path back from all this. There isn't one. And the sooner we all come to terms with that, the better off we and posterity will be. The constitutional government of the United States failed long before January 20th, 2025. Chasing sunk costs on this scale as futile, even if the alternatives are terrifying. In my opinion, the best, just, course forward is a Constitutional Convention tha…

Boggles my mind you'd even imagine a positive scenario here. Let the states choose? This is not only how we kept slavery going by letting states drive, but it also caused a civic war when we had no federal coordination. Nay, we must reform and reclaim a just federal government. Letting states drive themselves will turn the country into extreme violence.

The states should be free to choose their own course.

Citizens should be allowed to move freely between them.

May the best governance win.

Re: ICE Awards $25M Iris-Scanning Contract to Bi2 Technologies

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Post by esseph »

smallmancontrov wrote: post #27
GolfPopper wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don’t know how the US charts a path back from all this. There isn't one. And the sooner we all come to terms with that, the better off we and posterity will be. The constitutional government of the United States failed long before January 20th, 2025. Chasing sunk costs on this scale as futile, even if the alternatives are terrifying. In my opinion, the best, just, course forward is a Constitutional Convention tha…

You are wildly underestimating the difficulty of building anew. Fortunately, you are also overestimating the impossibility of coming back from organizational trauma.

You may be underestimating the historical significance of the moment a critical percentage of a population loses faith in its institutions.
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