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Re: We're testing new ad formats in Search and expanding our Direct Offers pilot

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Post by _heimdall »

nekzn wrote: post #38
gbro3n wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I won't be able to use their AI results if they are, personally. If I ask the question "what is the best tool for doing x" and I can't trust that the answer is going to be the truth according to all available information, then the AI is useless or worse, misleading. If google is unbiased, and only highlights paid advertiser mentions, no one will pay. I'd only accept this if it was a clear separation of LLM response a…

Sorry to tell you that all websites you get when you google "what is the best tool for doing x" are already manipulated, including reddit conversations.

Don't forget the YouTube videos, those "top 5 x" robot videos are the worst.

Re: We're testing new ad formats in Search and expanding our Direct Offers pilot

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Post by vrganj »

da_chicken wrote: post #24
karlkloss wrote: post #8

Does nobody talk abot the elephant in the room? Will the answers the AI gives also be influenced by Googles customers?

That will be fun because it's illegal to accept money to promote a product without indication that you have done so. The FTC requires "clear and conspicuous disclosure" for such endorsements.

Doesn't matter as long as you bribe the right people. The government is completely compromised.

Re: We're testing new ad formats in Search and expanding our Direct Offers pilot

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Post by bayindirh »

iugtmkbdfil834 wrote: post #39
bayindirh wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The method is already public for some time now. I bookmarked it since I share it a lot: https://research.google/blog/mechanism-design-for-large-lang... It's the same. There are slots, there's bidding, there're bidders. Same ad model, evolved for AI era.

Sigh, thank you for sharing this. This is disheartening ( even if not unexpected ) given that I actually like current version of gemini based on how well it performed -- all things considered -- relative to gpt sub on recommendation check.

I never ask computers about a certain device directly. I lost that faith eons ago. I first search for candidates, then go to official pages to check specs and then read / watch reviews, then decide.

Yes, it takes time, but I'm the one to blame if something goes wrong about it.

Also, it helps that I don't use Google for searching the web. I prefer Kagi.

I use Gemini (and only Gemini) to dig the net for the things that I can't find despite my best efforts. They are generally unbranded or very specific things, so ads doesn't play much role there.

I'm a bad customer for Google. :D

Re: We're testing new ad formats in Search and expanding our Direct Offers pilot

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Post by faangguyindia »

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #28
gbro3n wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I won't be able to use their AI results if they are, personally. If I ask the question "what is the best tool for doing x" and I can't trust that the answer is going to be the truth according to all available information, then the AI is useless or worse, misleading. If google is unbiased, and only highlights paid advertiser mentions, no one will pay. I'd only accept this if it was a clear separation of LLM response a…

Let me let you in on a little industry "secret" You can't trust those results no matter what The pages that they pull in to source that data all contain affiliate links and companies contact websites to get their tools to the tops of those lists by paying money often monthly. I know this because I do this... It's basically standard SEO but it also manipulates AI like ChatGPT very very easily

Simplest way to do is by running affiliate program for your SaaS and shady marketers will do everything to get sales if it's profitable.

Re: We're testing new ad formats in Search and expanding our Direct Offers pilot

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Post by adverbly »

gbro3n wrote: post #12
karlkloss wrote: post #8

Does nobody talk abot the elephant in the room? Will the answers the AI gives also be influenced by Googles customers?

I won't be able to use their AI results if they are, personally. If I ask the question "what is the best tool for doing x" and I can't trust that the answer is going to be the truth according to all available information, then the AI is useless or worse, misleading. If google is unbiased, and only highlights paid advertiser mentions, no one will pay. I'd only accept this if it was a clear separation of LLM response a…

Those sort of things are already highly biased because of the marketing spam that the modelsmare trained on.

I'd be more worried about AI convincing you that you need a product or expensive solution when you actually don't.

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