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To be fair, if I doomscroll an hour a day for 50 years, I'd literally lose 2 years of my life. (1hr/day * 50 years)/24hrs = 2.1 years.
That's only fair when you think doomscrolling is the same as being literally dead.
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#42Can we just, I mean just stop using and caring about most social media. Especially facebook, it offers no meaningful value. It's slow, obtuse and haven't made life better for anyone in the last decade I suppose. Maybe whatsapp has some use, but otherwise what's even the point. I don't even have ads on whatsapp not yet anyways, I will get my family to switch when they do. I don't care about you Meta/Facebook or whatev…
> Maybe whatsapp has some use WhatsApp is a real hard breakup in much of the world. It's the defacto standard for communication around here, and even a bunch of businesses use it exclusively. One can hope the EU will eventually mandate unlimited SMS on cellphone plans, but I don't see WhatsApp being dethroned another way
What I'd like to see is interoperability so that I am not forced to use Whatsapp because everyone else is using it and my friends in the US aren't forced to buy an iPhone just to use iMessage
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WhatsApp is the “best” Meta app by far. It does just offer an easy, secure way of contacting people using their phone number, through text, voice, images, video. None of their other apps come close. It doesn’t even look like a Meta product to me.
Meta acquired WhatsApp, thats why its the best
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You could make a similar noble call for everyone to just stop using cigarettes in 1950. It would not work. What ultimately worked were laws designed to curb tobacco use combined with public education campaigns.
I think attitudes mattered more than law, but some laws (e.g. advertising restrictions, and packaging requirements) may have helped change attitudes, but growing awareness of the health issues was the key. In 1950 tobacco was cool. By 2000 it was very definitely not. In western Europe at least, sales of premium brands were falling sharply and volumes shifting to cheap brands - a lot less profitable even for the same…
literally, you can't sell this to kids and ads designed to make it seem cool to kids are verboten.
the laws made the change.
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Easier said than done. You're still here, which is understandable since Hacker News is by far the most addictive one.
Hacker News is a forum, not social media.
it's here to increase visibility of the ycombinator brand, it's startups, and the technologies related to what they do. discussions around it were going to happen anyway, so own those and shape.
create an ecosystem, and then mold / skim / ingest / bask in it.
it's the same reason why BigCorps try really, really hard to get ownership / mod control of subreddits, and/or having their marketing assets responding to discussions in their sub or elsewhere.
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#46I understand the comparison, and if it were up to me, Facebook (aka Meta) and so forth should be disbanded and chopped up at once. But ... > Recent research shows that social media design features like infinite scroll and algorithmic feeds may encourage compulsive use and contribute to anxiety, depression, and social comparison. So their design is addictive; not disagreeing. I think most of us know that, even as adul…
To be fair, if I doomscroll an hour a day for 50 years, I'd literally lose 2 years of my life. (1hr/day * 50 years)/24hrs = 2.1 years.
"if I spent 1 hour a day meditating/working out/playing baseball/walking my dog for 50 years I'd waste 2 years of my life"
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#47Facebook. They're still Facebook to me. Rebrand all you want, you're just Facebook, incapable of doing anything beyond buying WhatsApp and Instagram.
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Good luck finding any objective distinction between HN, Reddit, WhatsApp, Signal, or email + listserv and "social media"! Or finding any one of "social media's harms" that could not, in some world where Facebook, Instagram, and Tiktok did not exist, be delivered in just as socially harmful (and beneficial) a form by sufficiently-accessible versions of the apps and protocols you value and use every day. I met someone…
> Good luck finding any objective distinction between HN, Reddit, WhatsApp, Signal, or email + listserv and "social media"! Hacker News: • doesn’t have a personalized feed • encourages intellectual discussion rather than brainrot • doesn’t support images or videos
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#50Can we just, I mean just stop using and caring about most social media. Especially facebook, it offers no meaningful value. It's slow, obtuse and haven't made life better for anyone in the last decade I suppose. Maybe whatsapp has some use, but otherwise what's even the point. I don't even have ads on whatsapp not yet anyways, I will get my family to switch when they do. I don't care about you Meta/Facebook or whatev…