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Re: It’s Toasted

#11

Post by BLKNSLVR »

cermicelli wrote: post #8

Can we just, I mean just stop using and caring about most social media. Especially facebook, it offers no meaningful value. It's slow, obtuse and haven't made life better for anyone in the last decade I suppose. Maybe whatsapp has some use, but otherwise what's even the point. I don't even have ads on whatsapp not yet anyways, I will get my family to switch when they do. I don't care about you Meta/Facebook or whatev…

The problem is it that it has a helluva lot of momentum from normies. Easily enough to outweigh the resistance of the likes of you and me.

The only thing will break it is a better / easier alternative. And with enough success that will probably turn into the next big bad.

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#12

Post by [deleted] »

haritha-j wrote: post #7
shevy-java wrote: post #2

I understand the comparison, and if it were up to me, Facebook (aka Meta) and so forth should be disbanded and chopped up at once. But ... > Recent research shows that social media design features like infinite scroll and algorithmic feeds may encourage compulsive use and contribute to anxiety, depression, and social comparison. So their design is addictive; not disagreeing. I think most of us know that, even as adul…

To be fair, if I doomscroll an hour a day for 50 years, I'd literally lose 2 years of my life. (1hr/day * 50 years)/24hrs = 2.1 years.

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#13

Post by Kiro »

cermicelli wrote: post #8

Can we just, I mean just stop using and caring about most social media. Especially facebook, it offers no meaningful value. It's slow, obtuse and haven't made life better for anyone in the last decade I suppose. Maybe whatsapp has some use, but otherwise what's even the point. I don't even have ads on whatsapp not yet anyways, I will get my family to switch when they do. I don't care about you Meta/Facebook or whatev…

Easier said than done. You're still here, which is understandable since Hacker News is by far the most addictive one.

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#14

Post by praptak »

cermicelli wrote: post #8

Can we just, I mean just stop using and caring about most social media. Especially facebook, it offers no meaningful value. It's slow, obtuse and haven't made life better for anyone in the last decade I suppose. Maybe whatsapp has some use, but otherwise what's even the point. I don't even have ads on whatsapp not yet anyways, I will get my family to switch when they do. I don't care about you Meta/Facebook or whatev…

You could make a similar noble call for everyone to just stop using cigarettes in 1950.

It would not work. What ultimately worked were laws designed to curb tobacco use combined with public education campaigns.

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#15

Post by jaapz »

haritha-j wrote: post #7
shevy-java wrote: post #2

I understand the comparison, and if it were up to me, Facebook (aka Meta) and so forth should be disbanded and chopped up at once. But ... > Recent research shows that social media design features like infinite scroll and algorithmic feeds may encourage compulsive use and contribute to anxiety, depression, and social comparison. So their design is addictive; not disagreeing. I think most of us know that, even as adul…

To be fair, if I doomscroll an hour a day for 50 years, I'd literally lose 2 years of my life. (1hr/day * 50 years)/24hrs = 2.1 years.

That's only fair when you think doomscrolling is the same as being literally dead.

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#16

Post by ramon156 »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #11
cermicelli wrote: post #8

Can we just, I mean just stop using and caring about most social media. Especially facebook, it offers no meaningful value. It's slow, obtuse and haven't made life better for anyone in the last decade I suppose. Maybe whatsapp has some use, but otherwise what's even the point. I don't even have ads on whatsapp not yet anyways, I will get my family to switch when they do. I don't care about you Meta/Facebook or whatev…

The problem is it that it has a helluva lot of momentum from normies. Easily enough to outweigh the resistance of the likes of you and me. The only thing will break it is a better / easier alternative. And with enough success that will probably turn into the next big bad.

> normies

I would argue that it's more or less that humans don't like change, and that boomers get upset about change. It seems that the older you get, the more egotistical/selfish you become.

I'm not saying my grandma is selfish for not wanting to switch away from WhatsApp, but I am saying that it'd be hard to convince her to switch, hence I don't try.

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Post by wiseowise »

ramon156 wrote: post #16
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is it that it has a helluva lot of momentum from normies. Easily enough to outweigh the resistance of the likes of you and me. The only thing will break it is a better / easier alternative. And with enough success that will probably turn into the next big bad.

> normies I would argue that it's more or less that humans don't like change, and that boomers get upset about change. It seems that the older you get, the more egotistical/selfish you become. I'm not saying my grandma is selfish for not wanting to switch away from WhatsApp, but I am saying that it'd be hard to convince her to switch, hence I don't try.

> It seems that the older you get, the more self-respect you develop.

FTFY.

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Post by dickeeT »

the_gipsy wrote: post #3

Facebook. They're still Facebook to me. Rebrand all you want, you're just Facebook, incapable of doing anything beyond buying WhatsApp and Instagram.

i mean they also created React, not that i really use it

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Post by wiseowise »

shevy-java wrote: post #2

I understand the comparison, and if it were up to me, Facebook (aka Meta) and so forth should be disbanded and chopped up at once. But ... > Recent research shows that social media design features like infinite scroll and algorithmic feeds may encourage compulsive use and contribute to anxiety, depression, and social comparison. So their design is addictive; not disagreeing. I think most of us know that, even as adul…

Social networks in the current form are, what, 10 years old? We already see collapse of attention and mental effects on people of different ages, full impact will be seen only in 20-30 years when current generation grows up.

> And the common lie is "but but but think anyone of the kids!!!".

I’m the first one to call out “think about the kids” bullshit, but this is directly applicable here.

Re: It’s Toasted

#20

Post by nsowz »

Kiro wrote: post #13
cermicelli wrote: post #8

Can we just, I mean just stop using and caring about most social media. Especially facebook, it offers no meaningful value. It's slow, obtuse and haven't made life better for anyone in the last decade I suppose. Maybe whatsapp has some use, but otherwise what's even the point. I don't even have ads on whatsapp not yet anyways, I will get my family to switch when they do. I don't care about you Meta/Facebook or whatev…

Easier said than done. You're still here, which is understandable since Hacker News is by far the most addictive one.

Hacker News is a forum, not social media.
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