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Mate, it'd smoke the FW12 especially when it comes to energy efficiency and heat. Also FW12 has a fan.
Hardly something that people check down at Media Markt.
The fact that they're selling incredibly well is a testament to that.
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It's approx £80 to £100 more for the same ram and SSD configuration as a £600 MacBook neo (No charger given in many countries as most people have a usb c charger). That's comparable. It's not a huge difference and the feature set is far greater for the framework. (£545 with the device with ports, £80 for the ram £50 for the SSD.)
Are these edu prices? Or is frameworks EU pricing just nuts? Here a comparable configuration to the neo is close to 800€!
This one isn't rocket science. Framework isn't as mass market as your typical laptop competitors. You can make an assumption a purchaser of framework is tech minded / informed shopper. You can also see their prebuilt option is Windows only. When going DIY, adding Windows is between $225 and $339 depending on edition. Most informed shoppers and techheads also know you can go to key selling websites and get completely…
If you buy a $20 key you're both pirating and giving money to a criminal, so it is, in fact, worse.
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Hardly something that people check down at Media Markt.
People considering the Neo aren't thinking they're being constrained by a mobile SoC when it performs just as well as M1 with a slightly reduced core count. The fact that they're selling incredibly well is a testament to that.
Actually I would like to see some numbers for how much they are flying off the shelves in countries where they are priced 700 - 800 euros.
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They will disagree when they find their phone powered experience to be sluggish, after a couple of Electron garbage powered apps are running, which they also don't care are making use of.
There has been plenty of reviews and comparisons of the neo in this area, they disagree with your take. Comparing with similarly priced alternatives, it comes out on top. Every reviewer is trying hard to prove the neo sucks by comparison, it helps contrarian takes get better views.
Anyone know if the new pro laptop has intel ME disabled?
It most likely does not. My framework 16 laptop is AMD based but has the equivalent feature (AMD PSP) enabled. https://community.frame.work/t/feasibility-of-diy-intel-me-n... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Platform_Security_Processo...
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People considering the Neo aren't thinking they're being constrained by a mobile SoC when it performs just as well as M1 with a slightly reduced core count. The fact that they're selling incredibly well is a testament to that.
In US, where anything Apple sells, not so much in the rest of the world. Actually I would like to see some numbers for how much they are flying off the shelves in countries where they are priced 700 - 800 euros.
We'll find out more during quarterly earnings at the end of the month.
https://www.macrumors.com/2026/04/16/macbook-neo-demand-surg...
This one isn't rocket science. Framework isn't as mass market as your typical laptop competitors. You can make an assumption a purchaser of framework is tech minded / informed shopper. You can also see their prebuilt option is Windows only. When going DIY, adding Windows is between $225 and $339 depending on edition. Most informed shoppers and techheads also know you can go to key selling websites and get completely…
If you buy a $20 key you're both pirating and giving money to a criminal, so it is, in fact, worse.
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There has been plenty of reviews and comparisons of the neo in this area, they disagree with your take. Comparing with similarly priced alternatives, it comes out on top. Every reviewer is trying hard to prove the neo sucks by comparison, it helps contrarian takes get better views.
Most done by Apple influencers, or people gifted one for review....
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The apple care experience is a scam
Just a few years ago I accidentally stood on my Macbook, screen broke and we got a new one no questions asked. If that's a scam then everything is.
Secondly, Apple Products seem specifically engineered to easily break catastrophically (see SSD power supply below speaker grill, zapping the NAND modules if liquid enters the conveniently placed holes. Or a loose metal plate slicing a crucial ribbon cable when the phone was dropped. And many more such cases
This mix of overly fragile design and ridiculously expensive first-party repairs combined with parts pairing and the resulting inability of third-party, non-apple-certified repair shops to level the playing field is what I call a scam.