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Framework's new Linux laptop is selling faster than its Windows one

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Re: Framework's new Linux laptop is selling faster than its Windows one

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Is framework aiming for mass market breakthrough? if so, I hope they're planning on the macbook neo. I have no reason to recommend it outside of tech-enthusiast circles over a macbook now, thanks to the neo. But I really don't think they want mass market, it wouldn't be a win for anyone. By design, it's a "repairable" computer, so people who want to repair their own laptop are the main customers. You can't repair mac…

The apple care experience is a scam

Not for people who don't know the first thing about laptops and how to fix them.

Re: Framework's new Linux laptop is selling faster than its Windows one

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have zero reasons to recomend paying 800 euros for a mobile SOC with 8 GB, and the Apple experience is pretty much hit and miss, it certainly isn't worthwhile the extra cost when one needs to top it up with Apple Care, and get lemons like buterfly keyboard, Tahoe and many other issues that get had waved because "It is Apple!". Then you get the nerds that get Apple because "I know this, it is UNIX!", when in reality…

mass market consumers don't even know what "SOC" is, and would pretty much disagree with the rest of your sentiment. I think I was clear on the context being for them, not tech enthusiasts like yourself.

They will disagree when they find their phone powered experience to be sluggish, after a couple of Electron garbage powered apps are running, which they also don't care are making use of.

Re: Framework's new Linux laptop is selling faster than its Windows one

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

mass market consumers don't even know what "SOC" is, and would pretty much disagree with the rest of your sentiment. I think I was clear on the context being for them, not tech enthusiasts like yourself.

They will disagree when they find their phone powered experience to be sluggish, after a couple of Electron garbage powered apps are running, which they also don't care are making use of.

Mate, it'd smoke the FW12 especially when it comes to energy efficiency and heat. Also FW12 has a fan.

Re: Framework's new Linux laptop is selling faster than its Windows one

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They will disagree when they find their phone powered experience to be sluggish, after a couple of Electron garbage powered apps are running, which they also don't care are making use of.

Mate, it'd smoke the FW12 especially when it comes to energy efficiency and heat. Also FW12 has a fan.

Hardly something that people check down at Media Markt.

Re: Framework's new Linux laptop is selling faster than its Windows one

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post #17

Anyone know if the new pro laptop has intel ME disabled?

It most likely does not. My framework 16 laptop is AMD based but has the equivalent feature (AMD PSP) enabled.

https://community.frame.work/t/feasibility-of-diy-intel-me-n...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Platform_Security_Processo...

Re: Framework's new Linux laptop is selling faster than its Windows one

#37

Is framework aiming for mass market breakthrough? if so, I hope they're planning on the macbook neo. I have no reason to recommend it outside of tech-enthusiast circles over a macbook now, thanks to the neo. But I really don't think they want mass market, it wouldn't be a win for anyone. By design, it's a "repairable" computer, so people who want to repair their own laptop are the main customers. You can't repair mac…

I like the form factor, screen quality (even though I prefer 16:10), the fact it works, the ports, but I'm lowkey pissed with the atrocious battery life - my new 13" AMD dies after 36h in sleep mode, unplugged and put to sleep at 90%

All the firmware updates are installed, there's nothing concerning in the logs.

Weak and laughable. Not even a few years old xps13s with hundreds cycles are this bad.

For office work, fine, plenty of horsepower, easy to fix, but not for private use at this point.

Re: Framework's new Linux laptop is selling faster than its Windows one

#38

Is framework aiming for mass market breakthrough? if so, I hope they're planning on the macbook neo. I have no reason to recommend it outside of tech-enthusiast circles over a macbook now, thanks to the neo. But I really don't think they want mass market, it wouldn't be a win for anyone. By design, it's a "repairable" computer, so people who want to repair their own laptop are the main customers. You can't repair mac…

I like the form factor, screen quality (even though I prefer 16:10), the fact it works, the ports, but I'm lowkey pissed with the atrocious battery life - my new 13" AMD dies after 36h in sleep mode, unplugged and put to sleep at 90% All the firmware updates are installed, there's nothing concerning in the logs. Weak and laughable. Not even a few years old xps13s with hundreds cycles are this bad. For office work, fi…

I assume you are using Linux. Did you do the advanced install to enable S3 hibernation?

Re: Framework's new Linux laptop is selling faster than its Windows one

#39

This one isn't rocket science. Framework isn't as mass market as your typical laptop competitors. You can make an assumption a purchaser of framework is tech minded / informed shopper. You can also see their prebuilt option is Windows only. When going DIY, adding Windows is between $225 and $339 depending on edition. Most informed shoppers and techheads also know you can go to key selling websites and get completely…

If you buy a $20 key you're both pirating and giving money to a criminal, so it is, in fact, worse.

Re: Framework's new Linux laptop is selling faster than its Windows one

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

mass market consumers don't even know what "SOC" is, and would pretty much disagree with the rest of your sentiment. I think I was clear on the context being for them, not tech enthusiasts like yourself.

They will disagree when they find their phone powered experience to be sluggish, after a couple of Electron garbage powered apps are running, which they also don't care are making use of.

There has been plenty of reviews and comparisons of the neo in this area, they disagree with your take. Comparing with similarly priced alternatives, it comes out on top. Every reviewer is trying hard to prove the neo sucks by comparison, it helps contrarian takes get better views.
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