Some ministers had opposed the amendment and suggested the new ban would have been difficult to implement because, under the law in England and Wales, it is not illegal for adults who are step-related to engage in a sexual relationship. This is amusing to me. Legal to do, but not legal to film.
The greater irony to me is how this relates to the sometimes interwoven family tree of British royalty.
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Driving is legal. Drinking is legal. But drinking and driving is not legal."
People forget Carlin was a comedian. "It's a big club and you ain't in it". Obviously the problem is the club is too small, that's why for most of the people it is true that they are not part of it. "Half the population is stupider than how stupid the average person is". As if somehow there's not a single person exactly on the median. In fact there is probably a huge number of people there, and within a margin of err…
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#43I don't get the point of banning specific pornography niches/fetishes that are otherwise legal. Are there not much more objectionable fetishes than this one?
* For anyone looking for a controversial Econ/Psy dual-major thesis topic, inflation-adjusted wage and job losses for teens reaching their age of maturity resulted in the ‘moving out’ age spiking, which combined with known U.S. repressionist tendencies, resulted in a corresponding spike in the incest fetish export trade. (psych sidebar about how fantasies serve as an escape valve for being trapped in one's circumstances). (citations needed)
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#44Some ministers had opposed the amendment and suggested the new ban would have been difficult to implement because, under the law in England and Wales, it is not illegal for adults who are step-related to engage in a sexual relationship. This is amusing to me. Legal to do, but not legal to film.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Driving is legal. Drinking is legal. But drinking and driving is not legal."
Or, to be true to the original:“Driving is legal, and drinking is legal; but driving an alcoholic beverage is not legal.” Maybe it’s just not street legal but you could do it on a race track?
Not sure, probably isn't street legal. But for the curious, it has been done before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fqpp-IAXF0&t=25s
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Driving is legal. Drinking is legal. But drinking and driving is not legal."
People forget Carlin was a comedian. "It's a big club and you ain't in it". Obviously the problem is the club is too small, that's why for most of the people it is true that they are not part of it. "Half the population is stupider than how stupid the average person is". As if somehow there's not a single person exactly on the median. In fact there is probably a huge number of people there, and within a margin of err…
That would seem to include you?
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#47"Once the law comes into effect, anyone found to posses or publish pornography which shows incest between family members, or sex between step- or foster-relations where one person is pretending to be under-18, will be criminalised...." Wouldn't the step/foster bit already be covered by child pornography laws?
Sounds like going forward the way around this would be to emphasize in the script that all the characters aren't related by blood and that everyone is of age.
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#48I don't get the point of banning specific pornography niches/fetishes that are otherwise legal. Are there not much more objectionable fetishes than this one?
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/creating-a-safer-...
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#49Consenting adults should be able to do whatever they'd like with each other and if they want to record it and share it, that's none of my business. How much mainstream entertainment is centered on murder? Is that ok?
The moral argument however is worth considering. Numerous well cited studies have discussed the deliterious effects of porn consumption. Porn (over)consumption directly correlates to loneliness, especially among males, for example. It also correlates to poorer relationship outcomes, increases in the rate of STDs, and other interpersonal issues. In general, porn is no different than any other drug with all the downsides associated.
We cannot say the same for "mainstream entertainment centered on murder". Murder in general has trended down year over year since the 60s. One would be able to make a stronger counter argument: the exposure to violent media has possibly made violence less appealing. You are bordering on using "violent video games create violent people" as proof we should not view porn differently. These are not the same argument as shown by a trivial search of elsevier.
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#50I honestly expected them to wait a bit longer before doing this