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AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4

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Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4

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post #38

It may seem cute but economies only do this when they are very stressed.

It didn't stop people from buying the most expensive cards and CPUs when the world was ending in COVID-19 days. Average Joe doesn't know anything about CPUs. This is a gaming community that squeezes the most out of each buck. I wouldn't use CPU market for economic prediction.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4

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Based on the benchmarks that I've seen, 5800X3D is still a good CPU for games, when paired with a very expensive GPU, otherwise a 5600X is cheaper and acts less than a heater over the winter. Someone with the money for a nVidia 5800 GPU will pair it with a 9800X3D, for most games even 16 GB of RAM will work and would be cheap enough, while for applications one does not need X3D, so what exactly is the point of 5800X3…

You are simply not making any meaningful amount of heat with a 5800X3D. You're talking about a TDP of 105W and a PPT of 142W.

And that's under extreme loads. In gaming it's only like 50-75w

https://tpucdn.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/images/power-g...

from https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/24.ht...

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4

#46
5800X3D have been high for a long time now. Ever since they were discontinued the price has only inflated. Same as the 5700X3D. AM5 was a bit of a slow start for a lot of people who didn't a big bump in jumping to the new platform. So while their high price isn't driven by RAM prices, I'm sure it's getting some extra inflation from it.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4

#47
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't matter for gaming at least.

NVIDIA models 4060/5050/5060 have only 8 PCIe lanes. Combine that with PCIe 3.0 and it becomes a problem.

is PCIe 4 fine?

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4

#48
The 5800X3D is an almost four year old CPU (2022), which was the last major product on its platform (first product in 2016, last new chipset launched in 2020). The successor platform (AM5) was released just months later and is now about 2/3rds or so through its lifecycle.

Normally an old, used CPU for a dead 10yo platform will go for a small fraction the MSRP. Not a multiple. Silicon economy seems in a good shape.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4

#49
post #41
post #38

It may seem cute but economies only do this when they are very stressed.

It didn't stop people from buying the most expensive cards and CPUs when the world was ending in COVID-19 days. Average Joe doesn't know anything about CPUs. This is a gaming community that squeezes the most out of each buck. I wouldn't use CPU market for economic prediction.

Average Joe does not know anything about CPUs, but when they are out to buy a new computer they can see the prices of a new DDR5 computer vs an older or used DDR4 one.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't matter for gaming at least.

NVIDIA models 4060/5050/5060 have only 8 PCIe lanes. Combine that with PCIe 3.0 and it becomes a problem.

X8 3.0 vs x8 4.0 and x8 5.0 benchmark comparisons.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060-t...

I'll let others judge for themselves, personally I'd be tempted to get an x16 GPU since the 5800X3D is actually very near top of the line and the GPU should match the CPU imho but in general even the worst case of x8 GPU on a PCIE 3.0 motherboard doesn't seem to be the end of the world

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