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5800x3d / 5700x3d are MUCH MUCH MUCH faster than non-x3d in some games that are CPU bound (for some even 2x / 3x faster than non-x3d) so even with a "slower" GPU it can still be a large upgrade
when you game in 4K thats only relevant for games like factorio or city skylines.
Based on the benchmarks that I've seen, 5800X3D is still a good CPU for games, when paired with a very expensive GPU, otherwise a 5600X is cheaper and acts less than a heater over the winter. Someone with the money for a nVidia 5800 GPU will pair it with a 9800X3D, for most games even 16 GB of RAM will work and would be cheap enough, while for applications one does not need X3D, so what exactly is the point of 5800X3…
> so what exactly is the point of 5800X3D scalping in the past, growth in PC gaming came naturally with the growth in the adoption of computers around the world. at saturation of "new to computers" audiences, growth in PC gaming comes from convincing the core gaming demographic, newly-turned 13 year old boys, to agitate for PCs instead of XYZ. so a big part of it is the retail-marketing experience - the aesthetics of…
The people that predicted this face a dilemma. They were ridiculed when their forecast was against popular opinion and now they are ostracized because they were right. I've seen this happen to many researchers in AI and it's demoralizing.
Rocking my 5800x from 2022, 32gb ram.
$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
...
model name : AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core Processor
$ free -m
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total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 32006 6878 1088 363 24856 25127Based on the benchmarks that I've seen, 5800X3D is still a good CPU for games, when paired with a very expensive GPU, otherwise a 5600X is cheaper and acts less than a heater over the winter. Someone with the money for a nVidia 5800 GPU will pair it with a 9800X3D, for most games even 16 GB of RAM will work and would be cheap enough, while for applications one does not need X3D, so what exactly is the point of 5800X3…
> 5600X is cheaper and acts less than a heater over the winter It’s impossible to keep my 5800x below 90C under full load.
Based on the benchmarks that I've seen, 5800X3D is still a good CPU for games, when paired with a very expensive GPU, otherwise a 5600X is cheaper and acts less than a heater over the winter. Someone with the money for a nVidia 5800 GPU will pair it with a 9800X3D, for most games even 16 GB of RAM will work and would be cheap enough, while for applications one does not need X3D, so what exactly is the point of 5800X3…
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> so what exactly is the point of 5800X3D scalping in the past, growth in PC gaming came naturally with the growth in the adoption of computers around the world. at saturation of "new to computers" audiences, growth in PC gaming comes from convincing the core gaming demographic, newly-turned 13 year old boys, to agitate for PCs instead of XYZ. so a big part of it is the retail-marketing experience - the aesthetics of…
Pc gaming is also massively cheaper than consoles these days so the lifetime cost is lower
Consoles don’t pay for online subscriptions with f2p games anymore, which is the overwhelming lions share of online play today.
Consoles also get to flip games you’re done with. I’m positive about 3 of my friends spend much less than I do on gaming these days because of all the games they buy, play once, then flip again on FB market place
And then you get to the rising entry level cost of PC gaming. If you want something better than a Steam deck you’re looking at 1K USD to start with an Intel dGPU
But I guess if you’re fine with a Steam deck it’s a bit cheaper than consoles to start
The best claim that PC gaming has today is that it has a much larger library with indies that don’t release on console
Be careful with these older boards. Some might be PCIe 3.0 making your GPU and NVMe dog slow.
Even like 2016 vintage boards were PCIe 4.0 so I don’t think this is a huge issue?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express
AMD didn't even support PCIe 4.0 until 2019 with Zen 2, Intel in 2020 with tiger lake.