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Russia Bans Roblox

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Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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I don’t get it. Roblox is an American company. Wouldn’t the pretty broad sanctions prevent them from operating there already?

That depends on what you mean by "operating". This very website, Hacker News, is not blocked in Russia - does that mean Y Combinator is "operating" there?

Fun fact, Hacker News is blocked in China

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Roblox has been banned in China since 2021. Perhaps it's something to do with nationalist governments not liking global corporate circumvention of their culture/power.

Or maybe Roblox is causing harm to children and nationalist governments are the fastest to both recognise and respond to the issue. We can speculate all day, but we should try to analyse these sorts of things from a learning perspective. What can we learn from Russia, China, etc? How are they better?

I think you will mostly get "the west is the best" over here. And "look at those evil authoritarians over there"....Enjoy your "freedom" to participate in the culture wars digital serf...while the standard of living, personal autonomy, wealth, & health may be on the decline...of yours & your loved ones. At least we have many of each other to blame...while a few profit.

Well, the last couple sentences is me paraphrasing. But one thing that many in the West boast about is the ability to criticize the systems to improve said systems. Let's see if actions match the rhetoric.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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> In the end it'll likely end with whitelists of allowed IP addresses I already had this idea of tunneling traffic through the voice/video calls in the Max messenger app. No one has done it in practice, yet , but I see no reason why it should not be possible. Обход блокировок, который ловит даже на парковке ;)

great idea. use the app tied to your passport and gosuslugi to make sure they know who is the genius when they detect it. edit: didn't know they allow anything except belarus, cool... as long as you can anonymously register that number

I don't think they would care as long as you don't do something stupid that would show up on their dashboards. But if you're paranoid, you can use phone numbers from, for example, Armenia or Kazakhstan. There are 8 countries besides Russia whose numbers they allow.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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See, there is no such thing as a 'democracy'. There's only autocratic systems that pretend better, and those who pretend worse.

The luxury of the West in 1 sentence. Have fun telling that to yourself when a random idiot that 30% of people voted for has power of life and death over you and your family.

As if you have a say other than "that guy" or "that other guy".

The wealthy already fund politicians' careers, they fund judges, they fund campaigns. The wealthy already run the country. They fund both parties as a tactic. The parties are just "good cop/bad cop".

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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I don’t get it. Roblox is an American company. Wouldn’t the pretty broad sanctions prevent them from operating there already?

This is an interesting question I wish I knew. Because I play war thunder and it is free to play but once a year I pay about $50 for the annual premium membership because I enjoy the game and worth it to me. But ultimately it is supposedly a Russian game. I know they have offices in other parts of the world but I have really wondered if the money is going back to Russia or if all the developed have just left and get it elsewhere in a different county.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Incidentally nobody in Russia can read that article because they already banned the BBC and 80 other EU media outlets. And Facebook. And Instagram. And Twitter. And Discord. This is standard Russian censorship of western media and news.

Right now, if you wish fully non-censored media, you need to live in a third world nation! All the high-and-mighty, old Europe powers are busy censoring a lot of stuff.

This is news to me! Could you share an example of some censored media in the US that's available elsewhere?

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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I don’t get it. Roblox is an American company. Wouldn’t the pretty broad sanctions prevent them from operating there already?

This is an interesting question I wish I knew. Because I play war thunder and it is free to play but once a year I pay about $50 for the annual premium membership because I enjoy the game and worth it to me. But ultimately it is supposedly a Russian game. I know they have offices in other parts of the world but I have really wondered if the money is going back to Russia or if all the developed have just left and get…

Wikipedia says it's moved to Hungary in 2015.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Everybody in Russia who is not a complete idiot already has a VPN that allows to circumvent censorship (for now). Source: I'm in Russia now. In the end it'll likely end with whitelists of allowed IP addresses, and that will indeed insure that nobody would be able to access banned resources.

> In the end it'll likely end with whitelists of allowed IP addresses I already had this idea of tunneling traffic through the voice/video calls in the Max messenger app. No one has done it in practice, yet , but I see no reason why it should not be possible. Обход блокировок, который ловит даже на парковке ;)

That does not seem like a good idea at all. Even if you are “not doing something stupid” the fact that you would be circumventing their app to bypass censorship they may deem you treasonous and a possible risk. Who knows what they could arrest you for.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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"everybody who is not a complete idiot" not true. looks like you're in your tech bubble and you think everybody else who is a regular person is an idiot. using VPN for circumventing censorship is illegal in Russia. fine is worse if if you promote it. for people who can't afford to spend a few thousands it's enough. some people don't care about fines, but new ISP equipment detects and ban VPNs quickly so people always…

> everybody else who is a regular person is an idiot. Looking at your dictator's approval levels and the number of people willingly signing up to die while killing innocents, that sounds correct. You all need help breaking the cycle of intergenerational trauma.

you are offtopic, but I will entertain your comment because I'm so confused/amused by what you say and what means "idiot" in your world.

- are you saying people forced to sign up for the war by force or rapists who do it to get out of jail in Russia are idiots?

- are you saying being pro putin/pro war is like being an idiot in Russia?

- are you saying russians in tech are saints and all like one are "not idiots" against the war? maybe you need a reminder about unit 26165 and APT28

- are you saying "everyone in russia/china/israel/iran/north korea/republican party is an idiot"? then allow me to congratulate you on such nuanced understanding of the world, enough said!

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Incidentally nobody in Russia can read that article because they already banned the BBC and 80 other EU media outlets. And Facebook. And Instagram. And Twitter. And Discord. This is standard Russian censorship of western media and news.

Everybody in Russia who is not a complete idiot already has a VPN that allows to circumvent censorship (for now). Source: I'm in Russia now. In the end it'll likely end with whitelists of allowed IP addresses, and that will indeed insure that nobody would be able to access banned resources.

There are plenty of ways to circumvent whitelists, such as domain fronting. Some are already battle-tested in China and we'd be happy to share them with the rest of the world.
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