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Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by shevy-java »

RomanPushkin wrote: post #25

It's both good and bad. On one hand, it's sad that there's no access. On the other hand, it increases the diversity of tools and services worldwide. Google, for example, is well known for buying startups just to kill them. In Russia and China, they have their own search engines, social networks, eBay/Amazon alternatives, and so on. These companies have produced great free software like LLMs, databases, development to…

> Seeing a corporation lose control over the Internet

But the state controls the flow of information in a dictatorship. So to me this seems more a lose-lose scenario than a lose-win or win-win.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by lenkite »

ch2026 wrote: post #4

Incidentally nobody in Russia can read that article because they already banned the BBC and 80 other EU media outlets. And Facebook. And Instagram. And Twitter. And Discord. This is standard Russian censorship of western media and news.

Right now, if you wish fully non-censored media, you need to live in a third world nation! All the high-and-mighty, old Europe powers are busy censoring a lot of stuff.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by jan_g »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #14
ch2026 wrote: post #4

Incidentally nobody in Russia can read that article because they already banned the BBC and 80 other EU media outlets. And Facebook. And Instagram. And Twitter. And Discord. This is standard Russian censorship of western media and news.

Russia Today et al are banned in the EU. This is standard European censorship of Russian media and news.

It's not banned. I am within EU and can normally access RT website. I can also access yandex, etc. Without VPN or proxies. SO, how is this "standard European censorship"? Don't believe Facebook and Twitter propaganda bots.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by dr_dshiv »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #14
ch2026 wrote: post #4

Incidentally nobody in Russia can read that article because they already banned the BBC and 80 other EU media outlets. And Facebook. And Instagram. And Twitter. And Discord. This is standard Russian censorship of western media and news.

Russia Today et al are banned in the EU. This is standard European censorship of Russian media and news.

Yeah, that’s weird. Also many local news sites around the world are effectively banned in EU because of lack of GDPR compliance. Messed up.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by platevoltage »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #14
ch2026 wrote: post #4

Incidentally nobody in Russia can read that article because they already banned the BBC and 80 other EU media outlets. And Facebook. And Instagram. And Twitter. And Discord. This is standard Russian censorship of western media and news.

Russia Today et al are banned in the EU. This is standard European censorship of Russian media and news.

I live in a country that is in the process of banning TikTok.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by DocTomoe »

shevy-java wrote: post #30

Censorship in a dictatorship. Now if only democracies wouldn't censor anything either ...

See, there is no such thing as a 'democracy'. There's only autocratic systems that pretend better, and those who pretend worse.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by lenkite »

jan_g wrote: post #33
SanjayMehta wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Russia Today et al are banned in the EU. This is standard European censorship of Russian media and news.

It's not banned. I am within EU and can normally access RT website. I can also access yandex, etc. Without VPN or proxies. SO, how is this "standard European censorship"? Don't believe Facebook and Twitter propaganda bots.

Yes, it is officially banned (along with Sputnik and other Russian media). It is sad that you don't know this as an EU citizen and think that formal directives of your union are Facebook and Twitter propaganda bots

"On 2 March 2022, the Council of the European Union adopted a measure suspending the broadcasting activities of RT (and another Russian outlet Sputnik) in the EU"

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2022...

"Russia’s war of aggression against Ukraine: Council bans broadcasting activities in the European Union of four more Russia-associated media outlets"

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2024...

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by mk89 »

DocTomoe wrote: post #36
shevy-java wrote: post #30

Censorship in a dictatorship. Now if only democracies wouldn't censor anything either ...

See, there is no such thing as a 'democracy'. There's only autocratic systems that pretend better, and those who pretend worse.

The luxury of the West in 1 sentence.

Have fun telling that to yourself when a random idiot that 30% of people voted for has power of life and death over you and your family.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by jan_g »

lenkite wrote: post #37
jan_g wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not banned. I am within EU and can normally access RT website. I can also access yandex, etc. Without VPN or proxies. SO, how is this "standard European censorship"? Don't believe Facebook and Twitter propaganda bots.

Yes, it is officially banned (along with Sputnik and other Russian media). It is sad that you don't know this as an EU citizen and think that formal directives of your union are Facebook and Twitter propaganda bots "On 2 March 2022, the Council of the European Union adopted a measure suspending the broadcasting activities of RT (and another Russian outlet Sputnik) in the EU" https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/p…

Yeah, I know about that. But it's not been implemented, so RT is in practice accessible. As are other Russian websites. I don't know what is sad about it, I'm just saying what is in real life, not what is on paper.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by Atlas667 »

shevy-java wrote: post #31
RomanPushkin wrote: post #25

It's both good and bad. On one hand, it's sad that there's no access. On the other hand, it increases the diversity of tools and services worldwide. Google, for example, is well known for buying startups just to kill them. In Russia and China, they have their own search engines, social networks, eBay/Amazon alternatives, and so on. These companies have produced great free software like LLMs, databases, development to…

> Seeing a corporation lose control over the Internet But the state controls the flow of information in a dictatorship. So to me this seems more a lose-lose scenario than a lose-win or win-win.

You're simplifying too much.

So to you its the state VS who? The rich billionaires + us?

The rich billionaires are the state. We're the ones with no real representation.

The fundamental divide is workers vs capitalists, not simply people vs government.

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