reminds me of the famous tachyum prodigy vapourware https://www.tachyum.com/
Vsora Jotunn-8 5nm European inference chip
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Re: Vsora Jotunn-8 5nm European inference chip
#42I can ensure you it's not vaporware at all. silicon is running in the fab, application boards have finished the design phase, software stack validated...
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#43Did they generate their website with their own chips or on Nvidia hardware?
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#44Re: Vsora Jotunn-8 5nm European inference chip
#45I don’t get the negativity. The specs look impressive. It is always good to have competition. They announced tapeout in October with planned dev boards next year. Vaporware is when things don’t appear, not when they are on their way (it takes some time for hardware). It’s also strategically important for Europe to have its own supply. The current and last US administration have both threatened to limit supply of AI c…
How do you tell the difference? Wait infinitely long and see if it appears?
Re: Vsora Jotunn-8 5nm European inference chip
#46I don’t get the negativity. The specs look impressive. It is always good to have competition. They announced tapeout in October with planned dev boards next year. Vaporware is when things don’t appear, not when they are on their way (it takes some time for hardware). It’s also strategically important for Europe to have its own supply. The current and last US administration have both threatened to limit supply of AI c…
> Vaporware is when things don’t appear, not when they are on their way How do you tell the difference? Wait infinitely long and see if it appears?
If those things are true in ~6 months, then I'll join the crowd here who are overly pessimistic at this moment, but until then, as most of the time, I'll give them benefit of the doubt.
Re: Vsora Jotunn-8 5nm European inference chip
#47Even if it's not vapourware, the website makes it look like one. Just look at those two graphs titled "Jotunn 8 Outperforms the Market" and "More Speed For the Bucks" (!) ; WTH?
Re: Vsora Jotunn-8 5nm European inference chip
#48I don’t get the negativity. The specs look impressive. It is always good to have competition. They announced tapeout in October with planned dev boards next year. Vaporware is when things don’t appear, not when they are on their way (it takes some time for hardware). It’s also strategically important for Europe to have its own supply. The current and last US administration have both threatened to limit supply of AI c…
>I don’t get the negativity. Where do you see the negativity? I don't believe labeling healthy skepticism and criticism as negativity to farm artificial sympathy in retaliation, does any good to anyone. Humans have pattern recognition capabilities for a reason, and if a company is triggering that in them, then it's best expressed why(probably because they saw this MO before and got burned) instead of just cheerleadin…
First comment: "Looks expensive, I'm guessing"
Second comment: "Probably vaporware"
6th comment: "They haven't disclosed any release date, Lots of chip startups start as this kind of vaporware" (they did literally just enter fabrication it seems)
10th comment: "So far, they just talk about it."
Maybe it looks differently now, after 14 hours since the submission was made, but initially yesterday, most of the comments were unfounded (and poorly researched) criticism.
Re: Vsora Jotunn-8 5nm European inference chip
#49I can ensure you it's not vaporware at all. silicon is running in the fab, application boards have finished the design phase, software stack validated...
Re: Vsora Jotunn-8 5nm European inference chip
#50Even if it's not vapourware, the website makes it look like one. Just look at those two graphs titled "Jotunn 8 Outperforms the Market" and "More Speed For the Bucks" (!) ; WTH?