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Re: Real time map of trains in Japan

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Post by exDM69 »

bergie wrote: post #40
exDM69 wrote: post #35

Actual GPS data from trains in Finland: http://www.vr.fi/fi/index/aikataulut/junatkartalla.html (finnish only) Close the dialog box that opens, it's a search for trains or stations on the map.

I did a somewhat similar mobile app for Maemo using the open data we have of Helsinki trams: http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/buscatcher-never_miss_another_tram... Some relevant public transportation data sources for Helsinki: http://www.hri.fi/en/data/hsl-reittiopas-api/

Here's a web service for Helsinki tram GPS data: http://transport.wspgroup.fi/hklkartta/

For some reason it's ridiculously hard to find as it's not linked to from the pages you usually use to find transportation.

Re: Real time map of trains in Japan

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Post by rkwz »

rurounijones wrote: post #8
kineticflow wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>but it's not "real" real-time because it is not based on the actual locations of the trains. It's "real-time" enough in Japan because trains in Japan are almost always on time.

Baaahahahahahahahahhahahahaaaaaa Train was 8 minutes late this morning and 3 lines were stopped. Probably due to the Typhoon yesterday causing scheduling problems but even on normal days Japanese trains are not the paragons of time-keeping the west seem to make them out to be (Although they ARE miles better than anything I have seen in the UK for instance.) [EDIT] Note: Previous poster downgraded the conviction of hi…

I take it that you've never been to India.

Re: Real time map of trains in Japan

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Post by gedejong »

exDM69 wrote: post #35

Actual GPS data from trains in Finland: http://www.vr.fi/fi/index/aikataulut/junatkartalla.html (finnish only) Close the dialog box that opens, it's a search for trains or stations on the map.

And the estimated locations of dutch trains: http://kubus.mailspool.nl/spoorkaart/

Re: Real time map of trains in Japan

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Post by screwt »

mtrimpe wrote: post #31
snogglethorpe wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing is perfect, not even Japanese trains, but in my experience, the grandparent poster is closer to the truth than you are: Japanese trains are paragons of time-keeping ("paragon: a model or pattern of excellence or of a particular excellence"). Obviously right after a typhoon is a bad time to measure anything, but in normal operation, Japanese trains are extremely punctual, to a degree that's downright astonishi…

Slightly off topic, but when my brother was young he became obsessed with preventing train suicides and we actually came to the conclusion that placing an airbag on the front of the train would most likely (help to) resolve this issue. Based on our calculations it should be feasible to prevent death in at least a few percent of cases. Given that the biggest draw for train suicides is its near 100% success rate that w…

I also thought this is an almost impossible problem to solve, until a friend pointed out that on the Jubilee line extension (London Underground), it is solved.

The edge of the platform at the newer stations is walled off from the track by glass. The platform doors line up with the train's, and open/close at the same time. So there's no access to the track at any point, hence no opportunity for "person under train".

Re: Real time map of trains in Japan

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Post by arrrg »

moe wrote: post #19
rurounijones wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, previous commenter said something along the lines of "Trains always on time to the second" which prompted my response. I don't know the exact numbers they use for their statistics (I think it used to be 1 minute). If a train is delayed by 10 minutes you can ask for a ticket to take to work to show your boss that being late was not your fault. Don't get me wrong, the punctuality is much better than most Europea…

In germany we're glad when the train arrives within the hour that it was scheduled for...

Not true. http://www.bahn.de/p/view/buchung/auskunft/puenktlichkeit_pe...

In August 2012, 99.1% of all stops happened within fifteen minutes of the scheduled time, 94.2% happened within five minutes. Looking only at long-distance trains, 75.8% of all stops where reached within five minutes of the scheduled time and 90.5% of all stops were reached within fifteen minutes of the scheduled time.

Re: Real time map of trains in Japan

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Post by aapl »

screwt wrote: post #44
mtrimpe wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slightly off topic, but when my brother was young he became obsessed with preventing train suicides and we actually came to the conclusion that placing an airbag on the front of the train would most likely (help to) resolve this issue. Based on our calculations it should be feasible to prevent death in at least a few percent of cases. Given that the biggest draw for train suicides is its near 100% success rate that w…

I also thought this is an almost impossible problem to solve, until a friend pointed out that on the Jubilee line extension (London Underground), it is solved. The edge of the platform at the newer stations is walled off from the track by glass. The platform doors line up with the train's, and open/close at the same time. So there's no access to the track at any point, hence no opportunity for "person under train".

Some metro and train stations have those in Japan too, though they are still somewhat rare sight.

Re: Real time map of trains in Japan

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Post by LeafStorm »

mnutt wrote: post #9

This is really cool; a few years ago I wanted to do this for the published schedules of NYC's subway. At the time it involved scraping schedules from the MTA website's horrendous HTML, but now it looks like they've completely reversed direction and have it in an accessible format. Interestingly, they have real-time data for buses, but not for the subway.

On the subway, it's probably harder to get data to the TVS since it would be transmitting from underneath tons of concrete. They could tie it into the train control system, but they probably don't want to connect that to the Internet to prevent the case that someone could take it over and mess with the subway.

Re: Real time map of trains in Japan

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Post by BostX »

arrrg wrote: post #45
moe wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In germany we're glad when the train arrives within the hour that it was scheduled for...

Not true. http://www.bahn.de/p/view/buchung/auskunft/puenktlichkeit_pe... In August 2012, 99.1% of all stops happened within fifteen minutes of the scheduled time, 94.2% happened within five minutes. Looking only at long-distance trains, 75.8% of all stops where reached within five minutes of the scheduled time and 90.5% of all stops were reached within fifteen minutes of the scheduled time.

Not true. Today morning "We appologize bla bla", last Saturday evening "We appologize bla bla aprox. delay 60 min". In the end it was about 120 min. In Germany trains do have delays a way TOO OFTEN.
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