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Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

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Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

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Good! I do not want nor need AI in every single aspect of my life. I mean, I've seen AI hygiene products out there. How does that even work? Don't answer that ... I know it's a marketing scheme, akin to the "HD" craze of five to 10 years ago.

I'm waiting for the day we get microwaves with an AI that turns them off once the timer reaches zero.

Actually it already exists. My microwave have a button labeled “AI” which suppose to run the microwave until it determines the food is ready.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

#42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clearly they aren't doing any/good work, if they allow popups to cover content. It's literally their job to prevent stuff like this. Mozilla needs to bring in the Bobs from Office Space: "What is it you say you do here?"

Well, what are examples of these popups? Just because a modal window exists doesn't mean it's bad for accessibility.

Hum... Pretty much so.

Unless it's a real emergency or the contents don't make sense until you do something, every modal window is an accessibility problem.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

#43
post #24

Why is Firefox adding AI features?

Pointy haired bosses heard about AI, and now you have AI everywhere.. you know, just in case, if you wanted an AI chatbot in your image resizing software or your pdf reader. Before that it was "cloud", where every app had to have a cloud-something, even if it didnd't need one.

Don't forget when everyone was adding "blockchain" to their apps, regardless of what that did or meant.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

#44

I file a ticket with Firefox whenever an unwanted dialog pops up covering content. If you tag these as being accessibility related they get bounced back and forth between a few people before getting closed and thus pour just a little bit of sand in the gears.

Why would you brag about that? Honestly, to what end? If your goal is to put sand in the gears what difference is there between this and trolling, spamming or just good ol' fashioned DOS?

I didn't read malice into the post, just using a tongue-in-cheek tone.

My reading was "letting them know doing bad choices will not quitely be accepted".

But I may ofcourse read something into it that wasn't meant.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

#45

I file a ticket with Firefox whenever an unwanted dialog pops up covering content. If you tag these as being accessibility related they get bounced back and forth between a few people before getting closed and thus pour just a little bit of sand in the gears.

Why would you brag about that? Honestly, to what end? If your goal is to put sand in the gears what difference is there between this and trolling, spamming or just good ol' fashioned DOS?

I can't speak for OP but I would do it to the end it demonstrates how frustrating these 'small inconveniences' actually are. Don't interrupt my workflow unnecessarily. The same reason I don't want adverts everywhere, or I use sponsor block for youtube. I didn't seek out advertisements so I can filter it out.

I am not seeking out AI features so I don't add them to my browser. Mozilla and google and everyone it seems now is forcing it everywhere down our throats. If a small grain of sand reflects any of the same frustration, I say good. Wish I could do more.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

#46

I file a ticket with Firefox whenever an unwanted dialog pops up covering content. If you tag these as being accessibility related they get bounced back and forth between a few people before getting closed and thus pour just a little bit of sand in the gears.

Could you link some? Would love to see what dialogs are meant, whether they can actually cause accessibility issues or are just "unwanted" and how the maintainers comment/decide on that front.

Been a hot minute since I last installed FF from scratch so maybe missing something, but the only popup I could remember in more recent releases was one showcasing Firefox View, which only appeared after setup. And of course the "Change to Default" message every browser shows after first opening, including the ability to never show that again. Since then, nothing.

Using a healthy mix of Chrome, Firefox and Safari depending on device and task and while I have niggles with all three, not aware of this on any, but maybe I am blind on this front.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

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post #33
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GNU Emacs doesn't make money, yet it exists. And yes, it contains a web browser. You can launch it using `M-x eww RET`.

I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that Emacs is a spreadsheet, photo editor, toaster oven, or hair stylist. For the right people, it’s a desert-island app.

So Do I. EMACS is multi

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

#48
post #18
post #4

Good! I do not want nor need AI in every single aspect of my life. I mean, I've seen AI hygiene products out there. How does that even work? Don't answer that ... I know it's a marketing scheme, akin to the "HD" craze of five to 10 years ago.

Agereed. Sadly, we're on the wrong planet, my friend. AI will be shoved into every available orifice and more. It's a great tool for "them" to gather even more info on you to sell to anyone with a handful of nickels. The last thing any of these masters of the universe will do is leverage AI to make everyone's life better.

Bruh, I think everyone knows that already but ChatGPT records your camera and audio and sends them to the US.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

#49
post #20

I file a ticket with Firefox whenever an unwanted dialog pops up covering content. If you tag these as being accessibility related they get bounced back and forth between a few people before getting closed and thus pour just a little bit of sand in the gears.

This is wasting the time of accessibility engineers who are doing very important work. Please don't.

> This is wasting the time of accessibility engineers

If only Mozilla felt the same about wasting people's time. We wouldn't be having this discussion.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

#50

An AI sidebar doesn't bother me. But it should be an extension, not an inescapable part of the browser.

I'd love to be able to open up an arbitrary web page in this sidebar. It would be super valuable for research. They can obviously do it, since the AI sidebar also loads a web page, but the functionality is locked for some reason, and vertical splitting extensions are pure jank.

I really wish Mozilla would focus on addressing some of the numerous user feature requests, rather than whatever the current trend is.

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