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Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

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Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

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Didn’t know Firefox had an “AI sidebar” https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/ai-chatbot Seems to be unconnected to any model and off by default.

I’ve found it super nice.

Similar to the “AI should be an assistant programmer, not an independent dev”, having Claude there and being able to ask questions about specific topics while I read is fantastic. Especially for scientific papers that are outside my specialty (i.e. all of them.)

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

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Very good news, this would have raised a major red flag for me if I went to use their browser and saw any AI integrations.

The AI integrations, AFAIK, work only if you provide an API key.

Yes, however it still means that the browser is phoning home to somewhere. To be able to make use of that API key, it has to send some data out. Is that data routed over TOR? Does it even matter given that an API key can be used to deanonymize you?

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

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The Mission is to make enough money to keep existing.

GNU Emacs doesn't make money, yet it exists. And yes, it contains a web browser. You can launch it using `M-x eww RET`.

I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that Emacs is a spreadsheet, photo editor, toaster oven, or hair stylist. For the right people, it’s a desert-island app.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

#34

I file a ticket with Firefox whenever an unwanted dialog pops up covering content. If you tag these as being accessibility related they get bounced back and forth between a few people before getting closed and thus pour just a little bit of sand in the gears.

Why would you brag about that? Honestly, to what end? If your goal is to put sand in the gears what difference is there between this and trolling, spamming or just good ol' fashioned DOS?

Some people really really hate Mozilla. But this is the first time I can recall seeing someone deliberately consuming Mozilla's resources and undermining the project, rather than arguing against it.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

#35

Didn’t know Firefox had an “AI sidebar” https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/ai-chatbot Seems to be unconnected to any model and off by default.

I have a Gemini sidebar, it just appeared out of nowhere one day, but I find it useful though. You can give it a URL and it can summarize it or whatever.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

#36
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Good! I do not want nor need AI in every single aspect of my life. I mean, I've seen AI hygiene products out there. How does that even work? Don't answer that ... I know it's a marketing scheme, akin to the "HD" craze of five to 10 years ago.

I'm waiting for the day we get microwaves with an AI that turns them off once the timer reaches zero.

Mine have had that for as long as they've existed.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

#37
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Why is Firefox adding AI features?

Pointy haired bosses heard about AI, and now you have AI everywhere.. you know, just in case, if you wanted an AI chatbot in your image resizing software or your pdf reader. Before that it was "cloud", where every app had to have a cloud-something, even if it didnd't need one.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

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This is wasting the time of accessibility engineers who are doing very important work. Please don't.

Clearly they aren't doing any/good work, if they allow popups to cover content. It's literally their job to prevent stuff like this. Mozilla needs to bring in the Bobs from Office Space: "What is it you say you do here?"

Well, what are examples of these popups?

Just because a modal window exists doesn't mean it's bad for accessibility.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

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If it pisses off the people who use it, its existence will be irrelevant.

"Nooooo, you need to use FF no matter how much it pisses you off, since we can't let Google be a monopoly (even though it already is and it's the government's job to crack down monopolies)"

You put that in italics and quotes, presumably to mock the people saying this but...yes, you should! Google does much worse things and is effectively a monopolist, so not using Firefox necessarily means using Google, which only entrenches their monopoly further.

Bitch at Mozilla, sure, but don't stop using it.

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