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Re: Notion 3.0

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post #39

I was forced to use Notion for a couple of months at work. One Big Mess. I prefer one tool for one job approach. Could someone please explain benefits of using one-does-all tools?

It used to be simpler and focused on capturing text. Slowly they turned into an alternative to Confluence, Trello, Jira, ChatGPT's UI, ad infinitum.

Most people got hooked before it was that convoluted.

Re: Notion 3.0

#42
Rare occasion where beloved project doubled down on the wrong direction. Instead of a personal knowledge base it becomes a company's knowledge base with little to no effort in improving "singleplayer" experience.

Great reminder to export all Notion data to markdown and use a different tool.

Re: Notion 3.0

#44
"For example, tell it to “compile customer feedback from Slack, Notion, and email into actionable insights” and watch it research across your tools, synthesize findings, create a structured database, then notify you when it’s done."

I wonder when for the first time a team of humans will complete a full project based on a finding that turned out to be hallucinated in a sub step of an AI agent.

Re: Notion 3.0

#45

A question for people who interact with non-trivial Notion documents: Have they fixed the sluggishness? Some people I've talked to say that Notion has made massive improvements in that direction, and that slowness is no longer an issue. I also hear a lot of complaints online. Perhaps their native apps are fast and webapp is slow? I'd love to hear your informed take on this. If it really is slow, how is it so successf…

they have not

Re: Notion 3.0

#46

A question for people who interact with non-trivial Notion documents: Have they fixed the sluggishness? Some people I've talked to say that Notion has made massive improvements in that direction, and that slowness is no longer an issue. I also hear a lot of complaints online. Perhaps their native apps are fast and webapp is slow? I'd love to hear your informed take on this. If it really is slow, how is it so successf…

I use it for personal notes, nothing complex just bullet point lists.

Every few months I have to split up pages and move stuff to archive because it becomes unusably slow. When I open the mobile app to write a quick note it's just frozen for several seconds, recent edits are not synced and so on.

Yes I should switch to something else but haven't found solution I like yet.

Re: Notion 3.0

#47
... How about fixing basic things like the cursor position in code blocks, and being able to select text on mobile, instead of unnecessary "AI Agents"?

Or is the frontend now supposedly obsolete since all the work will be done by "AI"?

Re: Notion 3.0

#48

Every time I use notion I can feel the PMs working there under pressure to ship some arbitrary (more often than not "AI") feature each quarter to meet some arbitrary KPI set by leadership. The base product was originally great: very smooth wysiwyg collaborative document editor with wiki-like linking. The problem is you don't need to do much on top of that. But clearly investors demand some "results" so PMs need to ke…

in which year was the Notion base product smooth? 2022 after buying a Mac Studio?

Re: Notion 3.0

#49
My installed Notion version appears to be 4.20.0 so presumably I am a visitor from the future sent back to warn you all that Notion will continue to be slow and clunky and full of AI shit nobody wants.

Re: Notion 3.0

#50
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The app you're looking for is Obsidian. Notion abandoned that goal years ago. Notion is making money for being a project management / team wiki. They don't care personal note taking.

Notion is on its track to become the new Lotus Notes, just with notes instead of email memos.

"Notes and Domino is a cross-platform, distributed document-oriented NoSQL database and messaging framework and rapid application development environment that includes pre-built applications like email, calendar, etc." [0]

Lotus Notes was the original offline-first everything app, including cutting edge PKI and encryption. It worked over dial-up and needed only a handful of MBs of memory (before the Java rewrite at least). Has anything else really come close since?

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HCL_Notes

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