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Germany's identity crisis: The trains no longer run on time

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Re: Germany's identity crisis: The trains no longer run on time

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When have they ran on time sorry ?

The last time I caught a train in Germany I remember having to wait on a freezing platform for ~ 3 hours until they gave up on the train and got us a coach and drove us to Hamburg...that was ~ 9 years ago.

I don't remember having the same issue in Netherlands though.

On the other hand I've been in Japan for a long time, I honestly don't remember a single train being late in all that time.

Re: Germany's identity crisis: The trains no longer run on time

#42
dude, Germany's identy crisis is that Germans still don't get the potential they have. They are still, after decades of American ( I love America but I think they had it waaaaaay too easy in the past decades ) easy mode, not realizing they are playing the game of others.

Two bad examples: there's a PhD level genius just a few villages away and he still didn't even try to get the funding to build a proper mechatronics Hogwarts in our area ( it's 2025 ... ) and a nuclear Physics PhD, who's now a banker ( crying laughing joker emoji, a fucking banker, like one of those modern Kazakhs, crying laughing Joker emoji ) just a little further away .... who's daddy is also a Physics PhD and has been in IT for 30 years or so ... Iean, sure, money, but is that all "agency" or just the result of priming/nudging towards the lower levels?

Good little Germans, just do as I do, keep your lips ( and minds ) sealed .... walk away

it's 4 to 8 hours of work per day anyway and you got the brains for it, ma dudes and dudettes, what the fuuuuuuuck

Re: Germany's identity crisis: The trains no longer run on time

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I moved to Germany 10 years ago and while regional and suburban train service has been great, the long distance service has been terrible, with high prices, almost no high speed service and no competition. I'm Italian and therefore I had very low expectations, but at least high speed trains in Italy run better than Germany (at least until recently, when lack of regular maintenance work ultimately made its dent into t…

There are so many Germans on YouTube mocking both the lack of time precisiin as well as the pricing schedule where to get reasonably priced tickets is you have to book them three months in advance

No the trick is to get one of the first x% of tickets sold to exactly that train. Well, mostly; being early also has some influence but the amount of unsold seats is far more important.

Re: Germany's identity crisis: The trains no longer run on time

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I worked at Boeing, we'd have a meeting now and then in a meeting room. The engineers showed up on time. The lead engineers showed up 10m late. The supervisor showed up 30m late. Anyone higher up, even later. This was never discussed, but the pattern was the same every meeting. I seriously disliked that nonsense.

That is why I do not like the American traffic signaling system. When the light turns red cross traffic has a two to three second delay. My feeling is that if people knew the cross traffic would go immediately when the light turned red they would certainly stop. But right now they know there's a buffer so they just run the red light.

Around here the power goes out to the lights now and then. Interestingly, the traffic flows smoother and faster without the lights! Even the arterials! It's amazing! Drivers simply politely cooperate with each other.

(The same thing happens when a traffic cop handles the intersection.)

I'm always assured that the city traffic light engineers know what they're doing and design the lights for maximum flow. They do no such thing. They are either incompetent or deliberately set things up to impede the flow of traffic.

Most of the lights now have cameras on them. Would it be so hard to connect them up to AI with the goal of "maximize throughput"? Imagine how much gas would be saved. It would be tremendous!

Re: Germany's identity crisis: The trains no longer run on time

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or there is a sane explanation - People drive cars -> People push their politicians to improve road infrastructure -> less money for other infrastructure -> trains are underfunded -> trains and tracks are having maintenance issues a reliability starts to fall apart -> people drive cars even more.

if you judge driving cars as 'sane', sure; I don't

I am just opposed to "big auto" idea being responsible for lack of investments in train network.

Re: Germany's identity crisis: The trains no longer run on time

#49

When I toured Germany in the 1980s with a train pass, there were clocks all over the train stations. If the train was scheduled to start at 11:07, when the big hand clicked to 7, the train started to move. It was wonderful. BTW, the D community is all over the world. We schedule a zoom meeting each month. When we began the meetings, and the meeting started at, say, 8, the meeting organizer would say "we need to wait…

This was the biggest culture shock for me coming from military aviation to software. In the former, a brief starts exactly on time, down to the second. "5-4-3-2-1-hack. Time is 0800." I think I'd get tarred and feathered if I did that at my company.

> I think I'd get tarred and feathered if I did that at my company.

The problem with it is the boss. Too many bosses show their dominance by how much they can force underlings to wait for them. The boss is quite capable of starting the meetings on time, and the rest will work out.

I do the same thing with chronically late people. I simply don't wait for them. The problem resolves itself.

Re: Germany's identity crisis: The trains no longer run on time

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is why I do not like the American traffic signaling system. When the light turns red cross traffic has a two to three second delay. My feeling is that if people knew the cross traffic would go immediately when the light turned red they would certainly stop. But right now they know there's a buffer so they just run the red light.

Around here the power goes out to the lights now and then. Interestingly, the traffic flows smoother and faster without the lights! Even the arterials! It's amazing! Drivers simply politely cooperate with each other. (The same thing happens when a traffic cop handles the intersection.) I'm always assured that the city traffic light engineers know what they're doing and design the lights for maximum flow. They do no s…

The Netherlands has it.
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