The Boeing Dreamliner link was marked as dupe... can you please make that the main one? This link doesn't even contain the plane type
Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard
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#42This is the first fatal crash of a 787.
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#44Remember last year when a Boeing engineer whistleblower urged the company to ground all 787 Dreamliners? [1] https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/apr/16/boeing-whis...
I'm not a fan of Boeing, but let's not start pointing fingers yet. We know literally nothing about what caused the accident yet, and the 787 Dreamliner has a stellar record: it's been flying since 2011, with over 1000 in service, and I believe this is its first ever major accident.
Yes, I saw on news a pilot who regularly flies to this airport mention bird strikes as a potential cause given the bird problem in that area.
I'm very disappointed that in India this aspect is being ignored. It should stimulate local/state/central govt to solve the slum, urban garbage etc kind of problems.
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#45I will reserve my judgement but Boeing can’t catch a break.
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I don’t know why people are always so quick to say whistleblowers are being purposely murdered.
At any rate we need to wait to understand the details of this crash, so far sounding like engine failure possibly due to bird strikes.
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#46Baffling tragedy, again. Clear skies, no LiveATC but reports of single Mayday call, gear out but no flaps and no control inputs visible in the grainy video. Something has to go really catastrophically wrong with a modern jetliner for that to happen, like the very dense flock of birds in Korea with the 737 a couple of months back. The very short intersection takeoff seems like a good hint (and terrible practice), but…
What do you mean by "(and terrible practice)"?
„Runway behind you“ is drilled into your head as one of the useless things in aviation. You always want to make sure to use the most runway available to you, exactly for cases when something happens. Hypothetical in this case: you realize something’s wrong with the plane, but you’re already too fast and close to the end of the runway to reject the takeoff because you wouldn’t be able to stop in time anymore.
Large airports with heavy traffic sometimes have operational constraints to send a plane out ahead of another from some intersection, but if the ADSB data is correct, taking off from half the available runway in a fully loaded 787 isn’t a good idea. You just give up a ton of margin for errors.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
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when will the chinese enter that market? super cheap planes for everyone!
Serious response: COMAC, the "Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China" (1) are working on it, but the competitor C929 aircraft (2) is not expected before 2030.
And they have produced smaller aircraft (3), but but the numbers produced so far are not impressive.
In other words, you're correct that it's not "if" but "when". And that it's a hard task, but they are working on it. The Jet engines seem to be the major hurdle.
1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comac
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
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when will the chinese enter that market? super cheap planes for everyone!
They have, but the only potential Dreamliner competitor on the horizon, the C929, won't enter service until 2030 at the earliest.