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Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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Re: Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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Why did this fall of the front page so quickly? Older posts with less points are still there?

As this article is actually on-topic, then it’s most likely because it sows internal discord.

Like most minds, the HN hive mind prefers to deny and suppress in response to various forms of cognitive dissonance, such as that which arises when one’s actions (or inaction) contradict one’s stated beliefs or morals.

HN also isn’t one for conscious introspection (ie meta commentary). Your comment and my response are generally no-nos.

Re: Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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Why did this fall of the front page so quickly? Older posts with less points are still there?

might have hit the flamewar filter? pushing it down the rankings? (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22159031 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25871251)

Re: Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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So a journalist at Mother Jones is shocked, but did anyone here on HN not predict this strategy long before Trump got his 2nd term?

What does this accomplish? I genuinely don't understand why this fallacy is so common , even trying to come at it from a psychology perspective. Something being shocking is not the same as something being unforeseeable. Being shocked by shocking behavior doesn't make you some kind of idiot. Acting as if having emotions about immoral behavior is beneath you is self-aggrandizing. I'm sorry for my tone, but I'm sick of…

Shock in this context probably refers to the meaning of the word that is surprise, rather than the meaning of the word that is disgust or revulsion. Basically, people use the same word to mean subtly different things. Something giving you a shock can mean being startled, but not disgusted. Or it can be the inverse of that.

> Something being shocking is not the same as something being unforeseeable.

That is true only for one definition/common use of the word.

Re: Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm going to need a shower after this but Gitmo, extraordinary rendition, and warrantless mass surveillance were still a thing under Obama, no? Still, not even comparable to what we're witnessing now.

Obama also created ICE as we know it today. And normalized drone strikes.

How are drone strikes any different than a pilot, a warplane, and advanced precision bombs/missiles?

Except they're cheaper to run and don't physically risk a pilot.

Re: Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry, like the other comment said you're still both-sides-ing. States / cities (democrat or republican) sent riot police, which is something they have always done. How they handled protests is worth criticism e.g. I don't like that they use curfews to suddenly make protesters breaking the law. I don't like the use of tear gas on otherwise peaceful protestors. As a note, these are state / city officials not feder…

> Both sides are not the same here. Name me a democrat president who has done equal or worse what the trump admin has done. I think you might have missed the point. The way I read the comment, and perhaps I'm wrong, is that this sort of power creep was inevitable. Which administration it happened under is likely an influencing factor, but to think it was never going to happen seems a bit far-fetched at this point.

No, he didn’t miss the point. “Power creep” doesn’t necessitate or justify the behavior of this administration.

Re: Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Insurrectionists are not protestors.

> The trick is to call them something else If it's politically expedient, that is. For one thing, they were far less violent than the BLM protesters. Yet one group is called 'protestors' and the other 'insurrectionists'.

Didn't they kill one police officer? Or was it two? In a single afternoon?

Please tell me how many police officer did the BLM protesters killed per day, just to confirm how violent they were.

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