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Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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Re: Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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This article is really worth a read and talks about the much deeper mechanics and institutional power behind what is happening now. Clearview had compiled a massive biometric database that would eventually contain billions of images the company scraped off the internet and social media without the knowledge of the platforms or their users. Its AI analyzed these images, creating a “faceprint” for every individual. The…

I think we’re entering a dystopian era…

Re: Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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post #6

This article is really worth a read and talks about the much deeper mechanics and institutional power behind what is happening now. Clearview had compiled a massive biometric database that would eventually contain billions of images the company scraped off the internet and social media without the knowledge of the platforms or their users. Its AI analyzed these images, creating a “faceprint” for every individual. The…

I think we’re entering a dystopian era…

I think most people will agree with you.

Re: Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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post #8

So a journalist at Mother Jones is shocked, but did anyone here on HN not predict this strategy long before Trump got his 2nd term?

Sadly this prediction could have been generalized to the US executive branch regardless of the most recent election. It's more of the same from what we've seen in the past, Democrat and Republican leader alike.

I'm sorry, like the other comment said you're still both-sides-ing.

States / cities (democrat or republican) sent riot police, which is something they have always done. How they handled protests is worth criticism e.g. I don't like that they use curfews to suddenly make protesters breaking the law. I don't like the use of tear gas on otherwise peaceful protestors. As a note, these are state / city officials not federal guidance typically.

However,

The current administration, Donald Trump, the president of the united states, and the top most members of his cabinet, as a federal, top-down policy will:

- Automatically identify protesters

- Arrest them for simply saying things the admin doesn't like.

- Bypass due-process.

- Will ship them to a gulag outside of the united states.

- Are on track to be found in contempt of court for refusing to bring back a lawful resident.

Both sides are not the same here. Name me a democrat president who has done equal or worse what the trump admin has done.

Re: Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly this prediction could have been generalized to the US executive branch regardless of the most recent election. It's more of the same from what we've seen in the past, Democrat and Republican leader alike.

I'm sorry, like the other comment said you're still both-sides-ing. States / cities (democrat or republican) sent riot police, which is something they have always done. How they handled protests is worth criticism e.g. I don't like that they use curfews to suddenly make protesters breaking the law. I don't like the use of tear gas on otherwise peaceful protestors. As a note, these are state / city officials not feder…

The rules state you need to stay on topic. Your reply violates that requirement. If you want to discuss politics instead of the technology of the post, feel free to engage other social media networks, Reddit would be a much better fit for the kind of discussion you are directing people to engage in.

In the interests of fostering better quality dialogue, I think you could have replied something like, “Democrats did (X in relation to technology) where Republicans have done (Y in relation to technology). It would have accomplished the same thing and at least stayed in relation to the topic.

Re: Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly this prediction could have been generalized to the US executive branch regardless of the most recent election. It's more of the same from what we've seen in the past, Democrat and Republican leader alike.

I'm sorry, like the other comment said you're still both-sides-ing. States / cities (democrat or republican) sent riot police, which is something they have always done. How they handled protests is worth criticism e.g. I don't like that they use curfews to suddenly make protesters breaking the law. I don't like the use of tear gas on otherwise peaceful protestors. As a note, these are state / city officials not feder…

I'm going to need a shower after this but Gitmo, extraordinary rendition, and warrantless mass surveillance were still a thing under Obama, no? Still, not even comparable to what we're witnessing now.

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they're selling surveillance tech to law enforcement (especially American law enforcement, who will deploy it disproportionately against marginalized groups), they're fascists. Simple as.

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I mean, you were outright defending the actions of the US disappearing someone off the street with no due process and refusing to abide by the court by perpetuating a lie [1].

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43546145

Re: Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly this prediction could have been generalized to the US executive branch regardless of the most recent election. It's more of the same from what we've seen in the past, Democrat and Republican leader alike.

I'm sorry, like the other comment said you're still both-sides-ing. States / cities (democrat or republican) sent riot police, which is something they have always done. How they handled protests is worth criticism e.g. I don't like that they use curfews to suddenly make protesters breaking the law. I don't like the use of tear gas on otherwise peaceful protestors. As a note, these are state / city officials not feder…

> Both sides are not the same here. Name me a democrat president who has done equal or worse what the trump admin has done.

I think you might have missed the point. The way I read the comment, and perhaps I'm wrong, is that this sort of power creep was inevitable. Which administration it happened under is likely an influencing factor, but to think it was never going to happen seems a bit far-fetched at this point.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry, like the other comment said you're still both-sides-ing. States / cities (democrat or republican) sent riot police, which is something they have always done. How they handled protests is worth criticism e.g. I don't like that they use curfews to suddenly make protesters breaking the law. I don't like the use of tear gas on otherwise peaceful protestors. As a note, these are state / city officials not feder…

I'm going to need a shower after this but Gitmo, extraordinary rendition, and warrantless mass surveillance were still a thing under Obama, no? Still, not even comparable to what we're witnessing now.

Obama also created ICE as we know it today. And normalized drone strikes.

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Far be it from me to interrupt your both-sides deflection but I’d like to ask you to cite any report in the recent past when democrats have called for the arrest or use of violence and/or the military against protesters

You just forgot the Palestine protests or what.

They didn’t call for mad violence against protestors. They didn’t call for arresting protestors.

I imagine you won’t admit you have no evidence based in reality.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Far be it from me to interrupt your both-sides deflection but I’d like to ask you to cite any report in the recent past when democrats have called for the arrest or use of violence and/or the military against protesters

The trick is to call them something else. The January 6 protesters come to mind, but since they actually threatened the lawmakers - not just random proles - they aren't called "protesters". Conversely, make sure the BLM folks are definitely not called rioters, even if you have to call them "fiery but peaceful" protestors.

Insurrectionists are not protestors.
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