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What a cool project. I really think music is one of our greatest examples of shared heritage. My only comment is I think this would of benefited from some interviews or commentary by actual musicians. It felt really really surface level.
Why is it "Shared DNA" if all rappers do is sample and totally rip-off music (Logos, artist names etc) before them? The concept of "DNA" with music goes much deeper than some lucky nobody who sampled someone's life work so they could pollute it with lowest common denominator poetry and a Roland Drum Machine. I submit that oogling over people who steal music by sampling is not that deep, and there's deeper methods of…
> Every example I skimmed over was some hiphop artist who ripped off music before them. Mozart ripped of Händel. For example parts from his famous Reqiuem are a rip of of Händels Messiah. And a lot of classical Composers (ex. Beethoven) ripped of from their "godfather": J.S Bach. Altough they did not call it rip of, but learning.
Of course, someone who knows nothing about music like this wouldn't know that.
The irony is that it could be argued hip hop is one of the few western pop musical art forms that isn't a complete J.S Bach ripoff.
Why is it "Shared DNA" if all rappers do is sample and totally rip-off music (Logos, artist names etc) before them? The concept of "DNA" with music goes much deeper than some lucky nobody who sampled someone's life work so they could pollute it with lowest common denominator poetry and a Roland Drum Machine. I submit that oogling over people who steal music by sampling is not that deep, and there's deeper methods of…
The very first rap/hip-hop song, Rapper's Delight is itself ... inspired by previous a song or two. But that's ok, since they absolutely added improvements.
when i gave a presentation on sampling for a public speaking class in college i played the amen break, then slowed it down to show it was used in Fuck Tha Police, then sped it up to show it was used in the powerpuff girls theme song
https://www.whosampled.com/sample/343380/Jamie-xx-Gosh-Lyn-C...
Earlier quoted context omitted.
The very first rap/hip-hop song, Rapper's Delight is itself ... inspired by previous a song or two. But that's ok, since they absolutely added improvements.
The 'haha! ha!' from Genesis's 'Mama' is quite literally taken out of 'The Message' by Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five (the first rap hit song): I just think it's neat Genesis were listening to that. They don't seem like they'd be listening to rap and yet it's well documented in their own words that they'd not only heard it, but were that into it that they kept sticking that riff in 'Mama' and it stuck.
What this mostly seems to demonstrate is that hip-pop is endlessly derivative. That might be a consequence of their data source: > To build this project, we used the dataset of hundreds of thousands of songs on Genius.com accessible through their API, over 200,000 of which were “connected” in some way by sample, interpolation, cover, or remix. Genres where sampling is openly and explicitly acknowledged are going to b…
Why is it "Shared DNA" if all rappers do is sample and totally rip-off music (Logos, artist names etc) before them? The concept of "DNA" with music goes much deeper than some lucky nobody who sampled someone's life work so they could pollute it with lowest common denominator poetry and a Roland Drum Machine. I submit that oogling over people who steal music by sampling is not that deep, and there's deeper methods of…
The video draws a nice parallel to how so much in our world serves as "inspiration" for our own works, but acknowledges the controversy around using a single source as "too much inspiration". Especially as we move into whatever copyright arguments are getting made toward AI right now, I think it serves as a nice outline on why this is such a complicated matter.
[1] https://www.everythingisaremix.info/everything-is-a-remix-20...
when i gave a presentation on sampling for a public speaking class in college i played the amen break, then slowed it down to show it was used in Fuck Tha Police, then sped it up to show it was used in the powerpuff girls theme song
What really blows my mind is not the fact that all these songs borrow from and remix one another, but the overall "problem of universals" from metaphysics. In the realm of music, how do we even identify specific characteristics that lead to properties of resemblence? How does your brain know "Oh, that's the Funky Drummer beat" when it's played on a different drum kit or at a different tempo, etc etc. edit: Would love…