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Analysis of Product Hunt products from 2014 to 2021

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Re: Analysis of Product Hunt products from 2014 to 2021

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bloomingkales wrote: post #16
WJW wrote: post #11

> Those who have paid even passing attention to modern productivity software will recognize the language and aim of Agenda, a project from more than 30 years ago, and therefore the broad endeavor of saving time, breaking silos, and endlessly iterating on what essentially amounts to the same few products, over and over, decade after decade. Despite the posted title, this article is really about productivity apps and t…

Fun article but not really about product hunt after the first few paragraphs. Mind fuck - product hunt is not about product hunting either. It’s spec work. It’s not super clear that’s what it is, but the specs given to you on product hunt are the current zeitgeist. Whether you like it or not, you will build your apps for this hivemind and not for any real problem space.

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Re: Analysis of Product Hunt products from 2014 to 2021

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Post by mattgreenrocks »

latexr wrote: post #24
bloomingkales wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun article but not really about product hunt after the first few paragraphs. Mind fuck - product hunt is not about product hunting either. It’s spec work. It’s not super clear that’s what it is, but the specs given to you on product hunt are the current zeitgeist. Whether you like it or not, you will build your apps for this hivemind and not for any real problem space.

> Whether you like it or not, you will build your apps for this hivemind and not for any real problem space. That assumes the person in question gives two shits about Product Hunt. What I learned from that website is that it isn’t worth it at all. It’s procrastination. It’s a place where wannabe founders gather to look productive and cool. People actually brag about being “top hunters”. It’s cringe worthy. Back in th…

This is the truth about PH. I've had a blog post living rent free in my head for about a year called "Product Hunt is not a marketing strategy" that outlines the farce that PH is.

They pitch it as being able to get exposure from a large, varied audience, except that's not the case at all. Try launching something that doesn't have to do with AI. Go ahead, try, and let me know how it goes. :)

Re: Analysis of Product Hunt products from 2014 to 2021

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Post by TZubiri »

maybe off topic, but I never got the gist of Product Hunt.

Isn't it solutionism? Who goes in search of products to try out?

I only see the appeal from builders that want inspiration or people who want to network, usually neither makes for a good user.

Are there people who go to product hunt when they have a problem and want a solution? Or people who have excess budget and look around to see where they can spend their money?

Re: Analysis of Product Hunt products from 2014 to 2021

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Post by PaulHoule »

varunneal wrote: post #37

I really like the thesis of this post: that there is a fundamental divide in tech that can be summarised as "the gamer" and the productivity-maxxing "nihilist". Here's how they describe gamers: > In this sense, the gamer does not only include those who play video games (nor does it necessarily include all those who do). The gamer is a synecdoche; skateboarders, people who seriously play sports, interested music liste…

Many of the grifters don't know they are grifters.

There's a kind of person who dreams of making big money in marketing but imagines they can do it with no work. These divide into: (a) people who are willing to work on the product but not the marketing, and (b) people don't want to work at all.

I've found there is no way you can get through to either kind of person.

At my undergrad school we had a college radios station KTEK that had a reputation for throwing dances that nobody should up for. I ran for the "public relations officer" job because I wanted my own key so I could open the station up to do my show Saturday afternoons.

I would photocopy several hundred posters with 10-20 different designs and plaster the campus with them and that got crowds to show up. I had a great crew behind me that DJed better than I did so people had a good time and they came back and within a year we had a great reputation.

Often I've either paid or had a volunteer to do similar work and the story is that they think making one poster design and sticking up 20 of them is enough: like the customer is seeking them out that desperately. Nope, you've got to work really hard to be heard in the din and make an impression.

Thus I've got more respect for the grifter who has some hustle than the grifter who doesn't.

Re: Analysis of Product Hunt products from 2014 to 2021

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Post by PaulHoule »

TZubiri wrote: post #43

maybe off topic, but I never got the gist of Product Hunt. Isn't it solutionism? Who goes in search of products to try out? I only see the appeal from builders that want inspiration or people who want to network, usually neither makes for a good user. Are there people who go to product hunt when they have a problem and want a solution? Or people who have excess budget and look around to see where they can spend their…

People have the delusion that they can launch a product there. I mean, you can, but you still have to do the 99% of the work it takes to get your product in front of the person who wants it.

Re: Analysis of Product Hunt products from 2014 to 2021

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Post by PaulHoule »

bearjaws wrote: post #36

By ending in 2021 at least he will be missing the ten million SaaS starter kits created in 2023-2024. SaaS starter kits are the MLM of programmers.

I needed a SaaS starter kit in 2015 and it was nowhere to be found! (e.g. the API economy was full of startups that offered 99 features I didn't need but didn't offer the 1 feature I needed to have a business which is a way to make people pay for it)

Re: Analysis of Product Hunt products from 2014 to 2021

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Post by minimaxir »

latexr wrote: post #24
bloomingkales wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun article but not really about product hunt after the first few paragraphs. Mind fuck - product hunt is not about product hunting either. It’s spec work. It’s not super clear that’s what it is, but the specs given to you on product hunt are the current zeitgeist. Whether you like it or not, you will build your apps for this hivemind and not for any real problem space.

> Whether you like it or not, you will build your apps for this hivemind and not for any real problem space. That assumes the person in question gives two shits about Product Hunt. What I learned from that website is that it isn’t worth it at all. It’s procrastination. It’s a place where wannabe founders gather to look productive and cool. People actually brag about being “top hunters”. It’s cringe worthy. Back in th…

Product Hunt was relevant...a decade ago.

Re: Analysis of Product Hunt products from 2014 to 2021

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Post by havefunbesafe »

TZubiri wrote: post #43

maybe off topic, but I never got the gist of Product Hunt. Isn't it solutionism? Who goes in search of products to try out? I only see the appeal from builders that want inspiration or people who want to network, usually neither makes for a good user. Are there people who go to product hunt when they have a problem and want a solution? Or people who have excess budget and look around to see where they can spend their…

Back before PH was sold, I was on it every day. Between the acquisition, crypto project astroturfing, and AI hellscape; it's now pretty meaningless.

Re: Analysis of Product Hunt products from 2014 to 2021

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Post by rsanek »

BoxFour wrote: post #19
thaw45645624312 wrote: post #15

Apologies for the unrelated comment, but as someone with origins in Belarus, I find it absolutely gutting and disheartening when people see the country’s name (in this case, on a chart), overlook it, and lump it together with some generalized notion of “Ukraine and Russia.” These are three distinct cultures, three separate nations. Sorry, I have no intention of sparking a debate or political argument, just expressing…

Slovakia and Estonia too get lumped in with Ukraine and Russia. I assume they meant "Ukraine and Russia" as a synonym for "eastern Europe" as a whole, but it is a bit dismissive.

Estonia maybe but I have never seen this for Slovakia
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