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Analysis of Product Hunt products from 2014 to 2021

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Post by askonomm »

BoxFour wrote: post #19
thaw45645624312 wrote: post #15

Apologies for the unrelated comment, but as someone with origins in Belarus, I find it absolutely gutting and disheartening when people see the country’s name (in this case, on a chart), overlook it, and lump it together with some generalized notion of “Ukraine and Russia.” These are three distinct cultures, three separate nations. Sorry, I have no intention of sparking a debate or political argument, just expressing…

Slovakia and Estonia too get lumped in with Ukraine and Russia. I assume they meant "Ukraine and Russia" as a synonym for "eastern Europe" as a whole, but it is a bit dismissive.

As an Estonian, I especially don't like being called eastern europe(ean). We're not, we're northern, according to UN geoscheme classification, according to EuroVoc, and I mean you can also just read the wikipedia page of a place to know where it is at. Furthermore, socially, culturally, and tech advancements wise, we're as far as you could possibly be from Russia association at this point.

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Post by mbesto »

WJW wrote: post #11

> Those who have paid even passing attention to modern productivity software will recognize the language and aim of Agenda, a project from more than 30 years ago, and therefore the broad endeavor of saving time, breaking silos, and endlessly iterating on what essentially amounts to the same few products, over and over, decade after decade. Despite the posted title, this article is really about productivity apps and t…

I wrote a blog article (now defunct) years ago about this, which I called "The cyclical nature of shiny new hammers". This was the basic premise. If the workforce is a bunch of carpenters and productivity apps are hammers, there will always be a subset of carpenters who chase after shiny new hammers. I do think there are productivity gains by these new hammers but they are marginal at best.

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WJW wrote: post #11

> Those who have paid even passing attention to modern productivity software will recognize the language and aim of Agenda, a project from more than 30 years ago, and therefore the broad endeavor of saving time, breaking silos, and endlessly iterating on what essentially amounts to the same few products, over and over, decade after decade. Despite the posted title, this article is really about productivity apps and t…

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Re: Analysis of Product Hunt products from 2014 to 2021

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Post by myth_drannon »

zurfer wrote: post #26
welder wrote: post #21

ProductHunt has over 300k products [0], why only look at 76k (25%) of them? [0] Source https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41708837

I wonder how they got the data. it says: "I found a publicly available list of all ProductHunt users, launches, upvotes, and comments." but perplexity or google search didn't help me

You can get it from Kaggle, but it looks like the dataset there contains only 10K products https://www.kaggle.com/datasets/undefinenull/product-hunt

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Post by apocalyptic0n3 »

treyfitty wrote: post #2

I can’t scroll on iOS safari.

Firefox on macOS is also completely borked. At least with my freescrolling Logitech Master MX 2. I'll scroll and it will jump the expected amount, I'll scroll some more and it will jump about 4-5x what I expect, and then I'll scroll some more and it will go backward in the page. The site is pretty much unusable for me.

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Post by varunneal »

I really like the thesis of this post: that there is a fundamental divide in tech that can be summarised as "the gamer" and the productivity-maxxing "nihilist". Here's how they describe gamers:

> In this sense, the gamer does not only include those who play video games (nor does it necessarily include all those who do). The gamer is a synecdoche; skateboarders, people who seriously play sports, interested music listeners, cinephiles, chess players, big wave surfers, and anyone else who orients their lives towards experiences that contain fun as a major ingredient are all subsumed into the persona. Casually playing a game on a subway or after a busy day to unwind doesn't by itself garner the gamer moniker, while taking paid vacation time to spend a focused 100 hours on Elden Ring does.

I think at the heart of tech, the pure hackers, and basically all great things come from these people. They are the people who take what they do seriously, and strive for perfection even where it is not utilitarian. It's how you avoid slop, and build great things...

To some extent I think the labels "gamer" and "nihilist" are overly generous. The divide is "people who love the tech" and "grifters". Creating video game is the least financially profitable venture for an expert software engineer, but (because of this) it is the most spiritually fulfilling. Every gamer knows the indie project made with love beats the billion dollar AAA project 9/10 times.

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Post by welder »

zurfer wrote: post #26
welder wrote: post #21

ProductHunt has over 300k products [0], why only look at 76k (25%) of them? [0] Source https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41708837

I wonder how they got the data. it says: "I found a publicly available list of all ProductHunt users, launches, upvotes, and comments." but perplexity or google search didn't help me

Kaggle dataset with over 300k posts:

https://www.kaggle.com/datasets/alanhamlett/producthunt-user...

Re: Analysis of Product Hunt products from 2014 to 2021

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Post by Hasu »

milkshakes wrote: post #25
lm28469 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're all reading way too much into it. Russia and Ukraine are both in the top of both charts, the others aren't. Belarus people are fine, the Belarus government has been horrible for a long time, it's not that surprising that people have a bad opinion of the country. And it doesn't look like it's going to get any better: https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russias-quiet-... All the people from Bel…

> Belarus people are fine, the Belarus government has been horrible for a long time, it's not that surprising that people have a bad opinion of the country. I would say the same could be argued for "Russia people" as well. They didn't select their dictator either, and have no way to remove him.

> They didn't select their dictator either, and have no way to remove him.

Political power comes from the consent of the ruled. All polities have a way to remove dictators. It's not pretty and causes a lot of harm, but then so do dictators.

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Post by halfmatthalfcat »

milkshakes wrote: post #25
lm28469 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're all reading way too much into it. Russia and Ukraine are both in the top of both charts, the others aren't. Belarus people are fine, the Belarus government has been horrible for a long time, it's not that surprising that people have a bad opinion of the country. And it doesn't look like it's going to get any better: https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russias-quiet-... All the people from Bel…

> Belarus people are fine, the Belarus government has been horrible for a long time, it's not that surprising that people have a bad opinion of the country. I would say the same could be argued for "Russia people" as well. They didn't select their dictator either, and have no way to remove him.

I mean, they do, but it involves risking your livelihood and/or life.
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