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I don’t think you can run the IoT version for general purpose use. Also if you’re using windows on an IoT device…
Also if you’re using windows on an IoT device… Microsoft is using IoT in a loose sense. The "thing" could be an industrial PC at the train station that plays a recorded message saying the 8:15 will run late today.
Anyone else here holding out? I am a hold out on upgrading, but mostly because of what I gather Microsoft's vision of the future of computing. They took a page out of Apple's notebook, the one where the user doesn't know what they want, the company does. Apparently we want: - A requirement of a non-local Microsoft account to install or use it, with no opt-out - An AI subsystem that tracks everything we do on the mach…
Had an HP laptop with a version of Windows 10 I liked okay, but after several years the mechanical hard disk failed.
Got another HP laptop, with Bit Locker and Windows 11. In one word for multiple reasons, unacceptable. Finally had (failed to keep good notes on where from) a thumb drive with apparently a recent version of Windows 10, installed it, and then discovered your list with '-' -- yup, I'm not the only one.
Looks like now Microsoft and 10 want to force users to accept updates: Sounds like should take backups of 10 and reinstall after the updates. The Windows 10 I had on the first HP didn't have the junk in your '-' list. Gee, should try to get and install the version of Windows 10 I had, uh, get a list of all the Windows 10 versions and pick one of the older 5-6 years ago?
In general, I'd like the tools I use to stop doing things I didn't ask for.
Anyone else here holding out? I am a hold out on upgrading, but mostly because of what I gather Microsoft's vision of the future of computing. They took a page out of Apple's notebook, the one where the user doesn't know what they want, the company does. Apparently we want: - A requirement of a non-local Microsoft account to install or use it, with no opt-out - An AI subsystem that tracks everything we do on the mach…
Anyone else here holding out? I am a hold out on upgrading, but mostly because of what I gather Microsoft's vision of the future of computing. They took a page out of Apple's notebook, the one where the user doesn't know what they want, the company does. Apparently we want: - A requirement of a non-local Microsoft account to install or use it, with no opt-out - An AI subsystem that tracks everything we do on the mach…
I had some experience with the IoT LTSC variant of W11 recently and found that while it's not perfect, it solves a lot of the telemetry and UX complaints people have with W11.
Anyone else here holding out? I am a hold out on upgrading, but mostly because of what I gather Microsoft's vision of the future of computing. They took a page out of Apple's notebook, the one where the user doesn't know what they want, the company does. Apparently we want: - A requirement of a non-local Microsoft account to install or use it, with no opt-out - An AI subsystem that tracks everything we do on the mach…
Other than that, I like the new clipboard, the much (much!), improved settings menus (I know a lot of people disagree but I couldn't stand the windows 10 settings mess), etc. The UI is also more pleasant and not as flat as windows 10 is.
I'm not sure if it's specific to windows 11, but compared to the version of Windows 10 I used before, it has a lot of multi-screen QOL improvements like making different screens of different sizes and resolutions seamlessly work together.
The very first thing I saw was TikTok, Facebook, Instagram and some other bloatware apps installed in the start menu (this is a Pro install, not Home edition)
The start menu itself is basically just a copy of a mobile phone's home screen.
I can no longer place my taskbar to the top as I've done for the last 20 years.
A disgusting amount of telemetry is enabled by default, including what is basically a keylogger, and I don't trust them for a second that they actually stop sending everything through even if you disable it in the group policy editor.
The right-click context menu requires 2 clicks to get the usual list of actions.
In order to change to the dark theme, you have to login with a microsoft account. Many other settings are also disabled until you login.
Edge gives you a truly pathetic nag if you type in Firefox on Bing. It constantly nags at you afterwards. I actually laughed out loud at how sad and pathetic it was, literally begging you to keep using Edge.
Explorer hangs constantly and is infuriatingly slow, even on my extremely fast and for now empty SSD. Search is useless despite the indexing feature.
I could go on. There're some small nice improvements like better dark mode support (though still not perfect and there's still lots of legacy windows). HDR support is better. The new settings app is better if only cause things aren't split between the control panel and it anymore.
However there being ads and suggested items popping up in my start menu disgusts me. The fact that you have to debloat the OS yourself, find 3rd party tools to fix all the garbage decisions M$ made, all for what basically amounts to microscopic sidegrades compared to Win10 just makes it a nogo.
I don't care about security "updates", I'll be using Win10 for a long, long time.
Didn't MS once say something to the effect that Windows 10 would be the 'last' major Windows version and that they'd switch to a more continuous update model? In reality, it was probably one of the versions with the shortest time until the update was announced. Windows 11 reminds me of the old rule that every other Windows version is best skipped.
No, a Microsoft employee said something to that effect in a speech in 2015, but it wasn't an official statement.
Anyone else here holding out? I am a hold out on upgrading, but mostly because of what I gather Microsoft's vision of the future of computing. They took a page out of Apple's notebook, the one where the user doesn't know what they want, the company does. Apparently we want: - A requirement of a non-local Microsoft account to install or use it, with no opt-out - An AI subsystem that tracks everything we do on the mach…
Yet half the menus will just ignore it. The start menu will pop up at the correct location, but then glitch to bottom left as soon as you start typing/searching
What's beyond is that even if we were to accept all the dumbing down and reduction of the UI as a sacrifice to make the OS more touch/hybrid friendly - it'd be really bad design, since keeping the taskbar on top makes it quite ergonomic to access on touch ultrabooks.
I'm picking this specific example, since it really questions the "trust us it's how it's best" excuse, and makes it much rather feel like 11 was simply rushed into production
Anyone else here holding out? I am a hold out on upgrading, but mostly because of what I gather Microsoft's vision of the future of computing. They took a page out of Apple's notebook, the one where the user doesn't know what they want, the company does. Apparently we want: - A requirement of a non-local Microsoft account to install or use it, with no opt-out - An AI subsystem that tracks everything we do on the mach…
I worked around several of those pain points: - A requirement of a non-local Microsoft account to install or use it, with no opt-out With some effort, you can use local account: https://www.windowscentral.com/how-set-windows-11-without-mi... - Ads in our face - A worse start menu - A worse taskbar Fix Explorer with Explorer Patcher: https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher . It was unusable otherwise for me.