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This post didn't help me.
I think the standard "it depends" applies here too... as always.
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Yes. At Caltech, you'd be socially ostracized by your friends if people knew you were cheating, or helping another person cheat.
That wasn't really my question. I was asking if the person helping other people in another class cheat would be violating the honor code. Not whether your friends would ostracize you if they find out you're cheating.
> Failure to realize the consequences of a course of action does not justify it.
https://deans.caltech.edu/documents/24878/Honor_Code_Handboo...
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This would suggest that people who voted for Obama are ok with conducting drone strikes against civilian weddings, wouldn't it?
I voted for Obama. Obama conducted drone strikes against civilian weddings. I'm not okay with that behavior. I'd still vote for Obama again, given the opportunity.
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That wasn't really my question. I was asking if the person helping other people in another class cheat would be violating the honor code. Not whether your friends would ostracize you if they find out you're cheating.
If you can't see that "helping other people in another class cheat" is violating the honour code then you might benefit from taking the time to do so. > Failure to realize the consequences of a course of action does not justify it. https://deans.caltech.edu/documents/24878/Honor_Code_Handboo...
I did, and I didn't see how. If Alice is helping Bob cheat, Bob is the one taking unfair advantage of others, not Alice. For all you know, Alice could be offering to help everyone cheat.
It's not like I'm saying something outlandish here. There's a reason most places have specific rules prohibiting assisting others with their violation. Even MIT goes out of its way to specifically call out "Facilitating Academic Dishonesty". [1]
[1] https://integrity.mit.edu/handbook/academic-integrity-mit/wh...
Caltech's Honor Code is simply: "No member of the Caltech community shall take unfair advantage of any other member of the Caltech community." - https://deans.caltech.edu/HonorCode
> "No member of the Caltech community shall take unfair advantage of any other member of the Caltech community." That's great, but I wonder why not just: > "No member of the Caltech community shall take unfair advantage of any other person."
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No no, we must make endless lists of specific behaviors we want and don't want.
immibis explains why that is better in one of the comment threads above: > The main purpose of a CoC is to point to it when you want to ban someone. It's an accountability sink - instead of saying you want to ban someone, you say you have to ban them because they violated the written rules.